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Quote from: nilecroc on October 20, 2013, 01:26:00 AM
Capitalism can't work because people won't produce products that last because it isn't profitable. Hospitals just want you to get hooked to medicines

Guy at a solar festival I went to for Libertarian panel.

Okay, say most of product X lasts for a year.
Then someone else makes a similar product that lasts for two years but costs only 1.5x as much.
Would you buy the latter?  If so, there's your answer.  If not, then obviously you're not really all that concerned about product longevity.
I recently heard that the word heretic is derived from the greek work heriticos which means "able to choose"
The more you know...

Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on October 20, 2013, 08:29:33 AM
Okay, say most of product X lasts for a year.
Then someone else makes a similar product that lasts for two years but costs only 1.5x as much.
Would you buy the latter?  If so, there's your answer.  If not, then obviously you're not really all that concerned about product longevity.

That's something a lot of people don't get: they DO "make them like they used to"; for example, you can get a dining room table just as sturdy as your great-grandmother's. It'll just cost you. Most people would rather go to Ikea because the tables are cheap and "good enough." But if you want longevity (and many people do), there's options.

But in a lot of cases it doesn't make sense. Take computers, for example. Within 5 years you'll probably want another one, one that's newer, faster, better. Same with TVs; in my life I went from black-and-white to color, small screen to large screen, to flat-screen HDTV. Eventually, I'll probably want an OLED. There's no sense in which I'll want to watch the same TV 50 years from now that I have right now.

It's not that they build them to fail; it's that there's no point in taking the expense in making their operational lifespan longer than people are going to want. That'll just increase the price, and people won't be willing to pay it.

Not like with (say) a bed, where you might very well buy one and keep it most of your life.

Quote from: MrBogosity on October 20, 2013, 08:52:30 AM
That's something a lot of people don't get: they DO "make them like they used to"; for example, you can get a dining room table just as sturdy as your great-grandmother's. It'll just cost you. Most people would rather go to Ikea because the tables are cheap and "good enough." But if you want longevity (and many people do), there's options.

But in a lot of cases it doesn't make sense. Take computers, for example. Within 5 years you'll probably want another one, one that's newer, faster, better. Same with TVs; in my life I went from black-and-white to color, small screen to large screen, to flat-screen HDTV. Eventually, I'll probably want an OLED. There's no sense in which I'll want to watch the same TV 50 years from now that I have right now.

It's not that they build them to fail; it's that there's no point in taking the expense in making their operational lifespan longer than people are going to want. That'll just increase the price, and people won't be willing to pay it.

Not like with (say) a bed, where you might very well buy one and keep it most of your life.
Very well put, Shane. :)
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

Quote from: MrBogosity on October 20, 2013, 08:52:30 AM
That's something a lot of people don't get: they DO "make them like they used to"; for example, you can get a dining room table just as sturdy as your great-grandmother's. It'll just cost you. Most people would rather go to Ikea because the tables are cheap and "good enough." But if you want longevity (and many people do), there's options.

But in a lot of cases it doesn't make sense. Take computers, for example. Within 5 years you'll probably want another one, one that's newer, faster, better. Same with TVs; in my life I went from black-and-white to color, small screen to large screen, to flat-screen HDTV. Eventually, I'll probably want an OLED. There's no sense in which I'll want to watch the same TV 50 years from now that I have right now.

It's not that they build them to fail; it's that there's no point in taking the expense in making their operational lifespan longer than people are going to want. That'll just increase the price, and people won't be willing to pay it.

Not like with (say) a bed, where you might very well buy one and keep it most of your life.
Not to mention he asked me if  I had evidence when I told him that's not what happens.

Someone honestl y trying to justify Ryan Faulk style segregation  said THIS!


Quotetnu we want to prohibit them from stealing our money through social redistribution.

I think at least one of us has made fun of this line of reasoning before like "We can't allow open borders because immigrants will abuse entitlements!"

QuoteMulticulturalism is a proven failed concept.

Citation needed. Even assuming he's right it still doesn't justify forced separation.

QuoteDo you see other animals living together this way? Do the polar bears live with the black bears? That makes no sense.

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QuoteI am sorry if you were inculcated with cultural relativism at a young age. It is really just artificial social engineering. It is ok to have some immigrants but not so many that it dilutes your entire culture.

Who decides this?
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It is an attempt to make us feeble and vulnerable. Other examples of this are not letting kids chuck snow, fail a class, win a sports game, or feel normal about wanting to mate with a partner who has superior genes.

You ALMOST started to make sense until that "superior genes" crap. Now, I may be wrong here but i'm pretty sure this is just bad science. It's not my specialty Shane is better with evolution then I am.


QuoteThe media makes us think ugly people exist? What the hell is that bull shit? I hate those lanky pencil neck liberal arts graduates who have nothing better to do than suggest such stupid ideas. They realize how the system has produced them to be such a failure. The only way they can feel better is to make sure every other person becomes a loser like them. 


Not even sure where this came form.


Anyone saying Obama is going to declare martial law.


Quote from: nilecroc on October 21, 2013, 10:26:21 AM
http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines/obama-secretly-signing-away-us-sovereignty-shock-plan-regulates-food-medicine-financial-markets-internet-freedom
Even if this is true, their criticisms are fucking retarded.
Just saw a cop speed like 10 miles over the speed limit and tail gate someone who slowed down when the cop got close to him. Fuckong dick.

"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537


Quote from: tnu on October 20, 2013, 01:30:32 PM
Someone honestl y trying to justify Ryan Faulk style segregation  said THIS!


I think at least one of us has made fun of this line of reasoning before like "We can't allow open borders because immigrants will abuse entitlements!"

That's a problem with entitlements, not with immigration.

And this whole "superior genes" nonsense is just a complete fail argument because even if you did prove it, it would be meaningless because such findings tell you NOTHING about any individual black or hispanic person.  Segregate people because they're part of a group that statistically does more bad things?  I'm sure I don't have to explain what kind of slippery slope that is.

Raised by a single parent?  Sorry but you gotta go
Make less than a certain amount?  Goodbye
Heck, segregate the genders since I"m sure you can find some expert who will say one is more violent than the other.  Then what?
I recently heard that the word heretic is derived from the greek work heriticos which means "able to choose"
The more you know...

Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on October 21, 2013, 09:48:55 PM
That's a problem with entitlements, not with immigration.

And this whole "superior genes" nonsense is just a complete fail argument because even if you did prove it, it would be meaningless because such findings tell you NOTHING about any individual black or hispanic person.  Segregate people because they're part of a group that statistically does more bad things?  I'm sure I don't have to explain what kind of slippery slope that is.

Raised by a single parent?  Sorry but you gotta go
Make less than a certain amount?  Goodbye
Heck, segregate the genders since I"m sure you can find some expert who will say one is more violent than the other.  Then what?

Also African American poverty was declining before welfare after that that came to an abrupt halt and according some measures even INCREASED.

Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on October 21, 2013, 09:48:55 PMSegregate people because they're part of a group that statistically does more bad things?  I'm sure I don't have to explain what kind of slippery slope that is.

Also, there is a danger of false correlation. It is possible the undesired behavior has to do more with a lack of (legal) access to needful things than being a member of any particular group. Is he a thief because he's black, or is he a thief because he can't get hired because he's black? Does the neighborhood's poverty and related high crime cause a lack of commercial investment, or does the lack of commercial investment and opportunity cause the higher crime, and the resulting poverty?

From the comments of this video (the video itself is not fail) My comments in blue, Hawkeyes in green and the fail in red.

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That "living wage" mantra needs to die in a fire for two reasons.

1. "I need it, therefore you owe it to me" is not an argument.

2. I make minimum wage and produce a surplus every month because I don't blow my money on junk I don't need.




I seriously doubt you actually for minimum wage because anyone getting fucked up the ass that hard by the man wouldn't be defending this shit system that depends on unemployment to keep workers terrified...unless you really love to suck the masters cock ...you make so little so you boss can make so much much more on the work YOU did.



Holy run on sentences Batman!

Actually it's quite simple. I budget tightly, I got a job close enough for me to ride a bike, I have reliable roommates to split expenses with and most important, I don't breed like a rabbit like so many numbskulls who somehow missed the memo that children are expensive.

Your boss makes more than you because he took more financial risks that you did. That's why. Wanna make as much? Start your own business or STFU.





My boss didn't take any more financial risk than me, they happen to be the stuffed suit in charge at the time...Are you so fucking stupid you think all business are small start ups where the people who created the company still have anything to do with it? Besides someone taking more "risk" than another doesn't some how equate to them being able to make money be exploiting the worker....the person who is subjecting themselves to employment is losing as much as someone else "risked" by allowing

Then try starting a busienss if you think it's so easy.



I can't wait to start a business so i can get rich of the back of having my employees doing the work......I don't care how hard it is to start a business, you're missing the point, you think putting up risk and working hard to start a business makes it okay for the exploitation of labor value in the capitalist system. You wouldn't say it's okay for a bank robber or murderer due to how much time and effort they put into planning and executing their crime.