Fail Quotes

[nilecroc]

So I watching CNN with a family member and they were talking about how the US might intervene in Syria. They supported it on the grounds that if it can be used there, it can be used anywhere. I replied pointing out the idiocy of intervening when they were already killing each other with guns, so why should the US gov intervene just because they started using chemical weapons. Then I said that intervening  just makes it worse. Then they said that the US intervenes everyday and you just don't here about it. They brought Osama and I said that was a case of intervention. They then went on about how Osama was a rich boy who ran off to Afghanistan to fight the Russian communists, and when that was over he turned his sights on American Capitalists. I gave up at this point and they said That they tired of people complaining when we help them, and that they should be thankful. They kept acting like I supported what Osama did because I pointed out the reason why he did it.

My question, how do you respond to neocons like this?

[Ibrahim90]

So I watching CNN with a family member and they were talking about how the US might intervene in Syria.

look, Syria can do without another western power fucking them up. any further intervention is risky, and dangerous. besides, Syrian women are often too cute for Americans...

They supported it on the grounds that if it can be used there, it can be used anywhere.

it isn't really working out in Iraq, or Afghanistan. and Lybia is still a mess, with all the trouble going on there courtesy of the fanatics. so where do they come up with this "if it works here it works everywhere" guff?

I replied pointing out the idiocy of intervening when they were already killing each other with guns, so why should the US gov intervene just because they started using chemical weapons. Then I said that intervening  just makes it worse.

you should have shown them Tom Murphy's latest video: the Syrian government has allowed inspectors in. 3 hours after that announcement, Obama went on record to say that the Syrians refused to let them in. Not that this has bearing on whether Asad's soldiers used these or not, but it does demonstrate that no matter what happens, the US govt. is clearly hell bent on excuse making to get the military invasion they crave.


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Then they said that the US intervenes everyday and you just don't here about it.

130 countries: I have them listed somewhere. tell me if I missed one. Again, see earlier where I mentioned the effects on Afghanistan and Iraq.

They brought Osama and I said that was a case of intervention.

It was not sufficient grounds to oust the Taliban: the Taliban didn't really want Bin Laden to do 9/11, and certainly weren't too thrilled afterwards, but Pahtun custom dictates that he couldn't be expelled. the Taliban leader basically said this himself. had a seal team 6 style ooperation been done in 2001, Taliban wouldn't be fighting us.....

They then went on about how Osama was a rich boy who ran off to Afghanistan to fight the Russian communists, and when that was over he turned his sights on American Capitalists. I

1. He was right to do so under Muslim law. the Communists were invading a Muslim country, and oppressing the people. And even leaving Islam out of this, his intentions were decent enough: to help people against an oppressive invader.
2. He only turned on the US when the Saudi Government rebuffed his and his fellow mujahideen's offer, and then to add insult to injury, allowed the quartering of US and foreign (non Muslim) soldiers in Saudi Arabia. While technically not in violation of the Laws of the Hurum, the precedences were such that B. Laden felt justified in his outrage.
3. he was also outraged (rightly so) at the acts of the US in the Holy land (supporting Israel), and in propping up dictatorships in our lands (Mubarak, the Saudi King, the Yemeni government, Even Saddam for a while).

gave up at this point and they said That they tired of people complaining when we help them, and that they should be thankful. They kept acting like I supported what Osama did because I pointed out the reason why he did it.

when helping us doesn't involve killing us, we can be thankful. I do not understand why they assume we Arabs and Muslims are all masochists...

My question, how do you respond to neocons like this?

I'd tell them "fuck you", but they're your family, so I have no suggestions.

[tnu]

eli nope on youtube has given us this gem

i claim that "correct" is also a subjective claim. what is correct to one person is not correct to another. there is no objective form of "correct" outside of mathematics.

Spot the contradictions?

[AnCap Dave]

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Honestly, this is even IE material.

[nilecroc]

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Honestly, this is even IE material.

That was pretty entertaining.

[nilecroc]

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/08/26/ea-we-dont-ship-a-game-at-ea-that-is-offline

Another reason I loathe EA. You'd think they learn after The Sims Online and the Xbox One.

[Skm1091]

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Honestly, this is even IE material.

Last time they tried to create a world caliphate it splintered into many different factions, didn't it?

[AnCap Dave]

Stick to actual science Neil.

[MrBogosity]

How is it logically possible to eliminate the rich? If you eliminate the richest people, doesn't that just make the next people down the rich?

[tnu]

How is it logically possible to eliminate the rich? If you eliminate the richest people, doesn't that just make the next people down the rich?

It's the old "rich = evil" schtick bt the more yo think about it wouldn't it be more desirable to eliminate the poor? Not as in get rid of the people but rather the condition.

[tnu]

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All comments from Frank Castle and Types10000 where they espouse their "morality is subjective and dependent on the society" garbage. I'll post some of the more recent gems from Castle

Instead of arguing "right" or "wrong" I simply appeal to power - if some one attempts to harm me (such as enslavement), I have no qualms with dealing harm to them: thus it is in the best interests of those who desire to do me harm to leave me be - lest they suffer severe consequenses (up to and including death).

Translaiton: Slavery is only wrong if the perspective slaves can defend themselves. In otherwords "might makes right" and they call US social darwinists?

Since "right" and "wrong" are dependent upon social context, what ultimately matters is whether those around you perceive enslaving another as being "right" or "wrong" that makes it so in the eyes of society - and since such notions are always in flux you can't count on what is "right" or "wrong" right now to always be such...

[nilecroc]

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"Anarcho capitalism makes no sense at all, call it capitalism without state, or pure capitalism or savage capitalism whatever the fuck

As far as I'm concerned you can't have a opression-free society where money is power, makes absolutely no sense."
-FelpHero

Implying that money is somehow oppressive.

"Anarchists have a negative view towards the inherently hierarchical power relations in capitalist society and support workers' self management. AnCaps are generally ridiculed by proper anarchists."
-ElectricUnicycleCrew

What is up with anarchosyndicalists and hierarchy? Also no true scotsman fail.

[Ibrahim90]

well, someone should share the old Near Eastern Saying, which goes: "the farmer is more important than the Sultan. Why? because without him the Sultan starves".

put another way, if deGrasse-Tyson wants to eliminate the wealthy, then he must first eliminate the poor. And once both are gone, where will those in the middle be?

[AnCap Dave]

Oy...this one is painful.

It starts off with someone I know giving what seemed like a nice write up on MLK's speech when suddenly a remark is made that is just baffling. The claim being that Trayvon Martin would still be alive were it not for racism.

Needless to say, I called this bullshit out for what it was. I was then bombarded with these hippie horse shit throwers claiming that I'm "disrespectful" for calling a dumb opinion that is FACTUALLY WRONG bullshit. Then the OP comes back in the thread and really stupids it up.

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And before I even finished this post, IT MANAGED TO GET WORSE!
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[Lord T Hawkeye]

"Anarcho capitalism makes no sense at all, call it capitalism without state, or pure capitalism or savage capitalism whatever the fuck

As far as I'm concerned you can't have a opression-free society where money is power, makes absolutely no sense."
-FelpHero

Implying that money is somehow oppressive.

*puts a loonie on the desk*

Okay, oppress me!

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