Fail Quotes

[evensgrey]

Albert Einstein was an immigrant.  Is anyone gonna claim the US would have been better off without him?

He was also what we would now call a refugee, of the most unfortunate sort, since he was fleeing his previous home country for fear of life and limb from the government of said country.

He also jumped the queue, quite literally.  At the time, being Jewish was something immigration cared rather a LOT about, and had strict quotas and a years-long waiting list for entree for Jews (which has been documented to have resulted in as large number of people getting caught up in the Holocaust who would have been safely in the US without this policy), which he was able, due to his fame and the fact he could walk into any university in the US and have administrators on their knees begging him to take a position there, to simply bypass and go from being on a speaking tour to immigrating.

[Ibrahim90]

Protecting its own ethnic heritage is a natural right!

you know, until it involves white people kicking "red" and "brown" people (and the occasional "less white") people off the land.

like how the "whites" who founded United States kicked the Native Americans....oh, I wasn't supposed to mention that, right?

[AnCap Dave]

you know, until it involves white people kicking "red" and "brown" people (and the occasional "less white") people off the land.

like how the "whites" who founded United States kicked the Native Americans....oh, I wasn't supposed to mention that, right?

Oh that doesn't count because they made 'MURICA so it's okay, but even if it did count it's way too late to whine about it now!

Yes, that previous sentence is a joke, but sadly this is a common argument I see among conservatives when you bring up the whole "slaughtering Native Americans" thing. I've also seen people bring up our slaughtering of Native Americans as a reason why we shouldn't let immigrants in. I wish I was kidding.

[MrBogosity]

Oh that doesn't count because they made 'MURICA so it's okay, but even if it did count it's way too late to whine about it now!

Yes, that previous sentence is a joke, but sadly this is a common argument I see among conservatives when you bring up the whole "slaughtering Native Americans" thing. I've also seen people bring up our slaughtering of Native Americans as a reason why we shouldn't let immigrants in. I wish I was kidding.

When we're talking about Native Americans, "centuries ago" doesn't count (even though in a lot of cases it wasn't even 150 years). But when it comes to Palestine, "centuries ago" counts all of a sudden (even though it was closer to 1500 years ago) and 1948 doesn't for some strange reason.

[R.E.H.W.R.]

How do you respond to the whole, "Libertarianism has never been done in history so there's no proof it will work."?

[AnCap Dave]

How do you respond to the whole, "Libertarianism has never been done in history so there's no proof it will work."?

"There has never been a time where people didn't own slaves! There is no proof that freeing the slaves would be a good idea!"

Just because something hasn't been done before doesn't mean that it is doomed to fail, and that's besides the point. The fact is, the current system fails and fails hard and it needs to be drastically changed. Not "fixed" but drastically changed into something completely new.

[MrBogosity]

"There has never been a time where people didn't own slaves! There is no proof that freeing the slaves would be a good idea!"

Just because something hasn't been done before doesn't mean that it is doomed to fail, and that's besides the point. The fact is, the current system fails and fails hard and it needs to be drastically changed. Not "fixed" but drastically changed into something completely new.

Also, this is more black/white dogmatic thinking. There are many points along the continuum from free markets to totalitarianism. The point to take home is, the closer you are to the free market side, the better things are; the closer you are to the totalitarian side, the worse things are.

Pretty simple math.

[R.E.H.W.R.]

This whole thread. Person who made first comment red. me: blue. Mark Hayden: black

The free market leads to slavery,

Yes, allowing people to do as they see fit as long as they don't use force or fraud leads slavery. Its not as though slavery is enforced by governments. Oh, wait!

Where has the government of today in America enforced slavery?

Where the fuck did I say that?

You know what you stated. Don't twist things like you libertards like to do. It won't wipe.

"Its not as though slavery is enforced by governments."
Where did I mention the US government? Oh, that's right, you're a liar.

No I'm not. You're twisting things again. You've lost. Accept it.

I quoted it. You liar.
I said governments enforce slavery, I never said the US government of today enforced slavery.
Your the the one twisting things, LIAR!

[MrBogosity]

It's amazing how quickly they resort to that when they're caught, is it not?

[R.E.H.W.R.]

It's amazing how quickly they resort to that when they're caught, is it not?

This guy is one of those morons who goes around calling us libertarians, "libertards"

[Lord T Hawkeye]

How do you respond to the whole, "Libertarianism has never been done in history so there's no proof it will work."?

There's what they said above but there's also two other facts to note.

Most of your everyday life IS self governed, it works fine and you would never have it any other way.

What do they mean by work?  Statism still hasn't delivered on the promises it's made so why does it get to win by default?

[Ibrahim90]

When we're talking about Native Americans, "centuries ago" doesn't count (even though in a lot of cases it wasn't even 150 years). But when it comes to Palestine, "centuries ago" counts all of a sudden (even though it was closer to 1500 years ago) and 1948 doesn't for some strange reason.

silly Shane, don't you know it's because Jews are God's chosen people, and Arabs are devil worshiping desert people? And we all know the Arabs were responsible for the start of the [wiki]Jewish diaspora[/wiki]...*extreme sarcasm*

sarcasm aside, believe me, I'm left scratching my head at the logic too.

[R.E.H.W.R.]

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Everything posted by the User Mark Hayden.
Seriously, I could use some help with this guy!

[MrBogosity]

Everything posted by the User Mark Hayden.
Seriously, I could use some help with this guy!

I'm sure I know that name from somewhere. Regardless, he is a piece of work...

[R.E.H.W.R.]

I'm sure I know that name from somewhere. Regardless, he is a piece of work...

He's everything I imagine when I think of a stathiest.