Fail Quotes

Started by Travis Retriever, October 17, 2009, 03:00:20 PM

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"Without revenue, we will never solve the problem by giving tax cuts to the wealthy while supporting two foreign wars,"

Charles Fink former AOL executive and producer.

I've heard a lot of comments like that, but this one is especially fail given the fact that the obvious solution is in the quote itself. Don't support two foreign wars (+ a lot of other semi-related military aggression).

Here's another from the same article. http://news.yahoo.com/patriotic-millionaires-beg-supercommittee-higher-taxes-185620525.html

" The current economic system is not broken, but it is working on behalf of those who designed it in their favor."

Robert Johnson, former chief economist of the U.S Senate banking committee and millionaire.

This one is kind of funny, because he could arguably be one of "those who designed it in their favor", and since he is suggesting tax increases there is no reason to believe he is not still doing it.

Quote from: Goaticus on November 20, 2011, 01:06:46 AMThis one is kind of funny, because he could arguably be one of "those who designed it in their favor", and since he is suggesting tax increases there is no reason to believe he is not still doing it.

Basic tactic of politics: accuse the opposition of what you yourself are doing.

Reminds me of this one Economist working for the government.
He was on the news and said that the USA's economy won't get better until Europe's economy improves.
Of course that just begs the question of what would it take to improve Europe's economy.  He went on about the USA having a constitution, while Europe doesn't.

1.  Europe isn't a country, so it makes sense they wouldn't have a Constitution.  You'd have to worry about a Constitution for each individual European Nation.
2.  Because that's done such wonders for the USA atm, right? *rolls eyes*
3.  How then, would he explain the USA's economy after WWII? The rest of the world's economy was in the shitter, having to rebuild and all, while the USA soared past everyone.  By his logic, we should have stayed in the economic shitter along with them, and only recovered as they recovered.  Yet it didn't happen.
Funny how that works out...
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

One thing I wish they would teach in High School is the Principal/ Agent problem, and then apply that to any discussion about Government activity.

Desertphile in this video's comments:

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Honestly, I don't know what his problem is.

I notice you didn't give him any room to start the fight he clearly wanted.

What is Desertphile's deal? Figure a guy like him would like 3rd party candidates. Granted I don't think I've watched one of his videos in over a year.

Quote from: FSBlueApocalypse on November 22, 2011, 10:23:08 PM
What is Desertphile's deal? Figure a guy like him would like 3rd party candidates. Granted I don't think I've watched one of his videos in over a year.

If I was being charitable, I'd say he's stuck in 'crotchety old man' mode.

Since I'm feeling more analytical, I'd say he's more likely stuck in the same mode of non-thinking that WildwoodClaire1 usually is when it comes to politics and economics.

Quote from: MrBogosity on November 22, 2011, 08:40:16 PM
Honestly, I don't know what his problem is.

he's being a jerk, to put it mildly? just a suggestion.

my advice would be to ignore him. he's clearly asking for a fight.

and while we are at failing, here is a gem:

Quote from: some Swede (?) who doesn't know what he's talking aboutpaying taxes is part of the agreement, living in a representative democracy. And you have a choice not to. I have a friend who chose not to.

I get to live in a high functioning society for the cost of xxxx tax dollars. I still would like to keep my money.

I get a flask of milk for the cost of xxxx dollars. I still would like to keep my money
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here's my reply (that stupid 500 char. limit is annoying):

Quotepaying taxes is part of the agreement"

never agreed to it. even voting in a rep. "democracy".

"And you have a choice not to. I have a friend who chose not to."

not sure how it works in Europe, but this isn't how it works in the US or any other place I've lived in. Govt. usually has you arrested and jailed for tax evasion.

and herein lay the problem with your last part: in much of the world, you DON'T have a choice in regards to paying taxes-once a tax law is passed-it's not like buying milk.
Meh

"X were just doing their job."
Where "X" is the military, the police, etc, etc, etc.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

"Moral competence belongs in lawmaking, not in administration."

A guy on another forum I go to said this when I posted the walnut story.

November 25, 2011, 09:21:49 PM #1317 Last Edit: November 25, 2011, 09:24:32 PM by surhotchaperchlorome
"I was spanked as a child and I turned out OK."

I was gang raped as a baby and I turned out OK.
See what I did there?
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

November 26, 2011, 01:00:12 AM #1318 Last Edit: November 26, 2011, 01:17:28 AM by Altimadark
A fellow by the name of CraigMetalHead has accrued a few fail quotes on the comments of the video "How to Debunk a Libertarian" (which has its own fail quotes, but I digress). Here's the current tail end of the discussion.

Me: "why is it I'm the ignorant one, the "blind" [to his ideology], when you're not the one asking any questions?"

Craig: "Yes, the ignorant ask a lot of questions. They probably wont listen to the answer but they will question.

And since when did being blind have anything to do with asking questions? Blind does not equal dumb and as this is typed out dumb wouldnt even effect ones ability to ask questions.

And why would the person with all the answers ask questions? Rhetorical, of course. Now I dont have all the answers but in this circumstance, I dont have any questions.
"

I'm not even sure how to respond. Is it a logical fallacy to point out Galileo (asks questions) being silenced by the catholic church (claims to have all the answers), or similar situations?
Failing to clean up my own mistakes since the early 80s.

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