Fail Quotes

[Travis Retriever]

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[AnCap Dave]

"Nearly all human activities, such as trucking, lighting, or construction, cost the lives of some innocent bystanders. We do not give up these activities, because the advantages, moral or material, outweigh the unintended losses. Analogously, for those who think the death penalty just, miscarriages of justice are offset by the moral benefits and the usefulness of doing justice." - Ernest van den Haag "The Ultimate Punishment"

In fact, this whole video is fail:
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[AnCap Dave]

This was posted on another forum I go to....just read it for yourself...

This question spawned during my debate concerning original sin.

The question at hand is what would be best described as "selective spirituality"- the belief in God on the basis of the Bible, but rejecting organized religion's interpretation of it, as well as being selective concerning which ideas from the bible are acceptable, and which are not (for ex: for universal love, but also accepting homosexuality, which the bible is against).

I OPPOSE this claim. I believe that many ideas in the bible have been perverted by religion, to the extend that even atheists have a hard time finding any other interpretation except the one proposed by organized religion.

The topic is homosexuality. I will begin with the verses found in the bible concerning homosexuality:

Leviticus 18:22 - Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.

Leviticus 18:29 (concerning the quote above) - Everyone who does any of these detestable things—such persons must be cut off from their people.

Here we have clearly that the punishment for homosexuality is not death, but merely social exclusion

But: We have this following quote

Leviticus 20:13 - If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads

So, we obviously have a contradiction here. The difference is, the second quote goes directly against other parts of the bible, like love, forgivness and a little thing called THOU SHALL NOT KILL!!!

So I have 2 questions:

1. Why choose to follow the second, and not the first quote? Especially when the second contradicts other parts of the bible?

2. Are there any possible interpretations of the meaning of the term homosexuality? And can "death" merely points to a severity of crime, not an extreme punishment?

You have to make a difference between homosexual love and homosexuality as an act. In the past, homosexuality was a life style, and was freely practiced in the ancient world. The actual point being made is that homosexual acts as part of a social aspect, without any natural inclinations, were the highest form of seeking worldy pleasures, which in turn inhibits seeking spirtual ones.

In short, God is not against homosexual love or homosexual acts between homosexuals. He is against the willingness to submit to the flesh instead of spirtual development. This should be discussed in the debate, as ancient cultures were the ones that created ethics and philosophy.

We have a hint of this in the few mentionings of homosexuality in the New testament:

Romans 1: 26-28 - Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done.

Bear in mind this quote from Matthew 19:8 - Jesus replied, "Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning.

Which further points to the fact that the interpretation of the verses that homosexuals should be killed is invalid.

[MrBogosity]

Lots of fail from AT&T in regards to their new monthly data caps: https://www.att.com/esupport/article.jsp?sid=KB410213&cv=801&title=Tips+for+managing+your+monthly+Broadband+Internet+data+usage#fbid=6RRMvylFhbV

Examples:

Most online video providers are now providing the option of viewing videos in either Standard or High Definition. Rather than always selecting High Definition, you should carefully consider each video that you download to decide if you truly need the highest quality. Make sure everyone in your household who downloads video content is making this consideration as well.

Yes, because we wouldn't actually want to move FORWARD into the 21st Century! 1960s resolution should be enough for anybody...

Carefully choose the most appropriate method of communication

Nowadays, consumers communicate using a wide variety of methods. Text messaging uses the least amount of data, and is the best way to communicate in some situations. Voice-over-IP, or VOIP, is a method of voice communication using your Broadband Internet connection which uses more data that text but not as much as video. Finally, video conferencing is a great way to have virtual face-to-face communications, but is also the method of communication that uses the most data.

So in your day-to-day communications, select the most appropriate method and use those methods that require more data only when it enhances the experience. And if you do choose to communicate using a webcam, consider using Standard Definition to minimize your data usage.

Right, because humans aren't social animals or anything like that. All this "personal connection with other people" is just outdated sentimentality. (I think I now understand why their customer support is so lousy!)

The Internet provides an easy way to quickly transfer various types of data over long distances. But you need to be knowledgeable about how these programs work and how much data you are transferring. For example, bit torrents have become a popular way of quickly transferring large files. As you begin downloading a file, you also begin sharing, or uploading, that portion of the file that you've received for other users to download. And once you've completed your file download, you begin offering up, or seeding, that file to any other users who would like to download it from you.

The file will be available to outside users as long as you leave the program running, so it is vital that you understand all of the options for how you share content using these programs and how to properly shut them down when you no longer intend to share content.

Right, because sharing ISN'T caring after all. Anyone detect a hidden motive here?

Of course there's the one they deliberately left out: "Understand that you have to have your service with us because we're a monopoly and your local government has legally prohibited any competitors from coming in and offering any better service, so you'll just have to bend over and take things on our terms or do without. God bless America!"

[AnCap Dave]

Posted Shane's graph about the rich paying taxes on Facebook. Got a reply from my cousin:

"It's more about percentage, less about amounts..."

/facepalm

[MrBogosity]

And she doesn't think that tiny little bars for the lower 4 quintiles compared to a gigantic bar for the 5th doesn't speak to percentages?

[AnCap Dave]

And she doesn't think that tiny little bars for the lower 4 quintiles compared to a gigantic bar for the 5th doesn't speak to percentages?

You should see what my other cousin put....

"It also has quite a bit to do with the fact that many large banks and corporations pay no taxes, yet school teachers are being "laid off" and public libraries are being shut down because they cost the country too much money."

[AnCap Dave]

I got a reply from the cousin that initially responded. Warning, what you are about to read contains massive failure.

"How do they show percentages? For example, someone in the middle class may pay 30% of their income to taxes, whereas someone in the upper class may only pay 15%. Etc., etc."

[MrBogosity]

From the CBO report, the percentages for each quintile (lowest to highest) are: -2.8, -0.8, 4.4, 12.9, 86.3

And that's the percentage of their income that is actually collected by the IRS, actual dollars that actually go into the actual treasury.

That's for Income Tax. For all Federal taxes combined it's: 0.8, 4.1, 9.1, 16.5, 69.3

[Ibrahim90]

This was posted on another forum I go to....just read it for yourself...

that leviticus passage isn't quite what it seems really: there is actually a pretty good series on that verse by ItsTheSuperfly regarding it.

having said that, the rest of the quote is fail. (and of course even that part is fail, since the guy clearly never researched this).

it's a common tendency unfortunately: Shane might remember this, but there was one guy who called me a moron, because I pointed out to him that the Australopithecus "Lucy" was not forged in any way in regards to her femur. when I pointed out to him how his claim was unfounded (again), and cynically remarked that he wouldn't have made Jesus Proud (see Matthew 5:22), he tried to tell me that because I was an Atheist, I am a moron according to Psalms. (talking about not reading your bible).

that's the kind of stupid I run into myself. And of course, he made a judgement that was totally unfounded, by in effect assuming I as an Atheist (I'm not-never have been), so he's already contradicted Jesus twice-according to his own gospel. he simply has no excuse.

of course, I can see now why people say if you read the bible, you actually are more likely to become an Atheist (or just not being Christian).

[AnCap Dave]

My step cousin posted this fail on Facebook. Ugh.

[MrBogosity]

So who's forcing her to?

[AnCap Dave]

So who's forcing her to?

It's a "he" actually. If anyone is forcing him to learn a second language, it would be the high school he goes to, since 2 years of a foreign language is a requirement to graduate, that being said however, that's no excuse to post something blatantly ignorant at its best and blatantly racist at its worst.

[Virgil0211]

I'm going to posit a documentary recently put on Netflix called "The Price of Pleasure". What's it about? Well...

http://www.redgarterclub.com/SDChronBlog2dot5/about/ernest-greene-reviews-price-of-pleasure-1/
http://www.redgarterclub.com/SDChronBlog2dot5/ernest-greene-debunks-the-price-of-pleasure-part-two/
http://www.redgarterclub.com/SDChronBlog2dot5/ernest-greene-debunks-the-price-of-pleasure-part-three/
http://www.redgarterclub.com/SDChronBlog2dot5/ernest-greene-debunks-the-price-of-pleasure-part-four/

Here's a deconstruction of the documentary by one of the interviewees who got the Michael Moore treatment that permeates the film. I'm also thinking about nominating it for the 'Biggest Bogon Emitter' award.

[VectorM]

I got confused: are those links supposed to be the fail, or are they the responce to the fail?