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Started by Travis Retriever, October 17, 2009, 03:00:20 PM

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Along those lines, It irritates me when people say "X% of rapes go unreported" (usually followed by "because... babyfish") You can't possibly know how many rapes are unreported because they're... UNREPORTED. The statistics that we have to work with in setting policies and such do and must deal with the reported. I suppose if they said "X% of rapes go unreported TO LAW ENFORCEMENT", it might be a different matter, as it might have been reported to a doctor or something,

Quote from: dallen68 on March 09, 2015, 11:45:35 AM
Along those lines, It irritates me when people say "X% of rapes go unreported" (usually followed by "because... babyfish") You can't possibly know how many rapes are unreported because they're... UNREPORTED. The statistics that we have to work with in setting policies and such do and must deal with the reported. I suppose if they said "X% of rapes go unreported TO LAW ENFORCEMENT", it might be a different matter, as it might have been reported to a doctor or something,

Plus, they trot out the low "falsely accused" number when we have no way of knowing how many of those "unreported" would have turned out to have been falsely accused if properly investigated. This is also contradicted by their claim that few rape trials result in conviction; since the justice system works on the presumption of innocence, then why aren't THEY considered among the "falsely accused"? Plus, it doesn't cover false reports of rape where the supposed rapist is unidentified (like with the UVA case).

Yeah, the whole thing's a lesson in How To Do Statistics Completely Wrong.

Also, according to the narrative, those that are acquitted are not falsely accused innocents. They're correctly accused perpetrators who "got away with it". You know because nobody ever goes to court when they're innocent, or any thing.

Quote from: dallen68 on March 09, 2015, 12:30:46 PM
Also, according to the narrative, those that are acquitted are not falsely accused innocents. They're correctly accused perpetrators who "got away with it". You know because nobody ever goes to court when they're innocent, or any thing.

Yeah, that's what I was talking about. Their number for "falsely accused" is WAY below the number acquitted!

Some people often ask what reason could possibly have someone to falsely accuse another person of rape, as if it is a good indicator of ridiculously low probability. The funny thing is, each time one of these case comes out in the open, the accuser never have a "good" reason. There are enough weird stories like that in the US, like the Brian Banks case or those three girls with the  cab driver ... The fact is, if people want to fuck you up, they'll find a way.

Quote from: AdeptusHereticus on March 09, 2015, 02:51:19 PMThe fact is, if people want to fuck you up, they'll find a way.

that is all too true in my life recently...
Meh

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Quote from: MrBogosity on March 09, 2015, 11:56:33 AM
Plus, it doesn't cover false reports of rape where the supposed rapist is unidentified (like with the UVA case).

They weren't completely unidentified, as the pretended ringleader was specifically identified.  This was one of the more obvious problems with the story, since this person was easily verifiable to NOT EXIST.

Quote from: evensgrey on March 09, 2015, 07:26:27 PM
They weren't completely unidentified, as the pretended ringleader was specifically identified.  This was one of the more obvious problems with the story, since this person was easily verifiable to NOT EXIST.

Yes, but it doesn't count in their false accusation statistics since it's only specific people who actually exist and are known who are accused.

Quote from: MrBogosity on March 09, 2015, 05:54:48 PM
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And Blacksheep as well.

Example: "economic fundatmentals FINITE DESIRES - INFINITE RESOURCES Your problem lies here, because there is no such thing as INFINITE RESOURCES.  Give me one resource on earth that is infinite?  You cant." Yes, he gets it precisely backwards, and basis his entire argument on the backwards way!

Seriously, is McIntosh even trying anymore?


Quote from: AnCap Dave on March 10, 2015, 10:39:30 AM
Seriously, is McIntosh even trying anymore?



He used to try?



Quote from: AnCap Dave on March 10, 2015, 03:56:22 PM

...Why is the name blurred out?  Also, her post, actually kinda proves the point she's arguing against, no?
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
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