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Quote from: MrBogosity on January 03, 2015, 09:12:04 AM
The point that needs to be taken from all of this is, THIS is government. No matter how peaceful you think your government policy is, no matter how much you think it's "fair," this is the face of it. Eric Garner was killed because of taxation, plain and simple. Those who deny that taxation is force have nowhere to go now. The cops are directly responsible for his death, and EVERY government entity charged with reviewing the situation says that they acted properly. This wasn't rogue cops, this wasn't a mistake, this wasn't the system being corrupt. This is what the system IS.

Anything else is a distraction from that vital point.
*Standing ovation* Indeed.  So no more "bad apples" crap.  It's like that picture that I can't for the life of me find, showing cops beating college protesters.  There was an arrow pointing at the protesters saying "wants more government" and an arrow pointing at the cops saying, "more government."
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

Quote from: MrBogosity on January 03, 2015, 09:12:04 AM
The point that needs to be taken from all of this is, THIS is government. No matter how peaceful you think your government policy is, no matter how much you think it's "fair," this is the face of it. Eric Garner was killed because of taxation, plain and simple. Those who deny that taxation is force have nowhere to go now. The cops are directly responsible for his death, and EVERY government entity charged with reviewing the situation says that they acted properly. This wasn't rogue cops, this wasn't a mistake, this wasn't the system being corrupt. This is what the system IS.

Anything else is a distraction from that vital point.

^This. Let's stop making excuses for cops. What they did was not okay and no amount of excuse making will ever make it so. Garner is a victim in that situation and nothing less.



Because banning people from practicing religion has worked out so well in the past. Just ask the Catholic Church about how well their Inquisition went.


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Quote from: D on January 02, 2015, 11:03:54 PM
Yeah, complications that never would have happened if they never touched him and never bothered him. Point still stands that they killed him. They instigated those complications.

>And we DID get pissed about Garner's death

And then they started making excuses as to why Garner somehow got what he had coming. The fact is, he didn't deserve that because he did nothing wrong.

You're making emotionally fueled statements again.  Kindly stop.

He said what Eric did was foolish, and it was.  Plus he'd been in trouble for resisting arrest before so he knew it was foolish.

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^This. Let's stop making excuses for cops. What they did was not okay and no amount of excuse making will ever make it so. Garner is a victim in that situation and nothing less.

That WAS his point if you'd have fully listened to the vid.  I know they're long and I completely understand if some people don't want to hear it all but if you don't, then please don't comment and don't post statements based off here say you heard from other people.

It doesn't matter that he wasn't hurting anyone.  The lesson was simply an appeal to your own safety.  The police are dangerous, do NOT provoke them no matter how right you actually are.  They don't care and making yourself a martyr is not going to help anyone.
I recently heard that the word heretic is derived from the greek work heriticos which means "able to choose"
The more you know...

Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on January 04, 2015, 08:25:10 AM
You're making emotionally fueled statements again.  Kindly stop.

He said what Eric did was foolish, and it was.  Plus he'd been in trouble for resisting arrest before so he knew it was foolish.

How is pointing out the fact he wouldn't have died if the cops never touched him an emotional argument?

He also said that Eric Garner made victims of store owners by selling loose cigarettes, which is a completely bullshit statement.

QuoteThat WAS his point if you'd have fully listened to the vid.  I know they're long and I completely understand if some people don't want to hear it all but if you don't, then please don't comment and don't post statements based off here say you heard from other people.

Really? I directly quoted the guy and you're saying I'm going by what other people said? What next, you're going to tell me I took it out of context? Sure, he half-ass agreed with the guy at first saying government taxes are a part of the problem, but was quick to point out how what Garner did wasn't a victimless crime, trying to put blame on Garner himself. Again, I'll point out that the people who buy loose cigarettes are people who weren't going to buy that pack of cigarettes in the first place. Those store owners were victims of nobody and on that point Stefan is 100% incorrect.

QuoteIt doesn't matter that he wasn't hurting anyone.  The lesson was simply an appeal to your own safety.  The police are dangerous, do NOT provoke them no matter how right you actually are.  They don't care and making yourself a martyr is not going to help anyone.

I know Garner wasn't doing this, but if appeals to safety are what we're all about, then I guess people should never act in any form of civil disobedience ever again. They might kill you.

Quote from: BlameThe1st on January 04, 2015, 12:32:13 AM


Because banning people from practicing religion has worked out so well in the past. Just ask the Catholic Church about how well their Inquisition went.

funny, my memory of what was said in religion class didn't involve much hate...even my notes, read over  decade later, doesn't come across as Hateful or evil. It is a lot like Christianity (as far as I'm aware), only stripped down (point being, if Islam has no place on his shitty little island, neither does Christianity).

well, either way, banning people from practicing any religion is stupid--whether it's the inquisition, the mihna (where Muslims persecuted Muslims over whether the Qur'an was created or not), or the test act passed by his people.


Meh

Quote from: D on January 04, 2015, 12:23:26 PM
I know Garner wasn't doing this, but if appeals to safety are what we're all about, then I guess people should never act in any form of civil disobedience ever again. They might kill you.
Well, unless you happen to be at the wrong place at the wrong time.  Your innocence is no protection, as folks whom Harry Browne took note of in his book, "Why Government Doesn't Work."  I still remember that example Shane likes to use:  of the wrong house on the mistaken drug raid where they shoot the family dog...
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537



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I recently heard that the word heretic is derived from the greek work heriticos which means "able to choose"
The more you know...

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Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on January 07, 2015, 01:51:57 AM
[yt]D09gfFaiZa8[/yt]  Intel, really?  do you hate money?

Guess im going with AMD next time I get a processor
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