Fail Quotes

[tnu]

Gender-segregated schools are the traditional norm in Catholic schools (where they can manage it, anyway) here in Ontario. They don't actually manage it in practice, even where they technically have them in some cases (adjacent boys and girls schools that are functionally one school and share students back and forth freely, for example) but they do make a try of it.

Can you do one for Sam Seder? I have osmething of a vendett a agaisnt theman.

[Travis Retriever]

I think I found my next target for Anti-Libertatrians Can't Think (After I tackle Dusty):

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"The main problem that I have with libertarian logic is that they expect the corporations to play the government's role." Wow! Not even ten seconds in and this video went from 0 to epic fail!

Wait what? So we expect corporations to murder people overseas and beat up innocent protesters? I thought we were the 'idealistic loonies who think corporations will behave' (nevermind the fact that corporations by definition can't exist in a free market).  Good lord.

[Skm1091]

http://theprogressivecynic.com/debunking-right-wing-talking-points/refuting-gun-enthusiasts-anti-gun-control-arguments/

Number 19 and 14 made my blood BOIL!

[AnCap Dave]

I think I found my next target for Anti-Libertatrians Can't Think (After I tackle Dusty):

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"The main problem that I have with libertarian logic is that they expect the corporations to play the government's role." Wow! Not even ten seconds in and this video went from 0 to epic fail!

8 seconds. It took him 8 seconds to fuck it up.

[Travis Retriever]

http://theprogressivecynic.com/debunking-right-wing-talking-points/refuting-gun-enthusiasts-anti-gun-control-arguments/

Number 19 and 14 made my blood BOIL!

People love to bitch about how libertarians like Cantwell, Shane, et al are assholes who aren't civil, but honestly? I find that many statists are typically much worse.  For one, look at the article posted.  It's filled with TONS of lame political cartoons making fun of us.  Cantwell, while a black sheep at times, at least has the decency to leave that self congratulatory crap out.

Secondly, at least libertarians--even Cantwell--give them the common courtesy of saying that, "yeah, in a free society, you'd be free to live as you'd like.  You want to live in a communist commune? Go for it.  Just don't force any unwilling others into it." With them, it's "NO YOU GIVE US MONEY/GUNS/BODIES FOR THE ARMY OR WE KILL YOU BECAUSE ITS OUR RIGHT WAAH!"

Like Cantwell said, if someone starts with a threat, people tend not to be so nice regarding their 'feelings' etc.  So the fact that we haven't just thrown our hands up in exasperation and simply shoot them in the face speaks volumes to OUR civility.

That article is also a super fail for another blatant reason--special pleading.  Having guns makes you a nutter..except for the government and their armies, police, who will take your guns away...with threat of being shot...yeah.

[Skm1091]

People love to bitch about how libertarians like Cantwell, Shane, et al are assholes who aren't civil, but honestly? I find that many statists are typically much worse.  For one, look at the article posted.  It's filled with TONS of lame political cartoons making fun of us.  Cantwell, while a black sheep at times, at least has the decency to leave that self congratulatory crap out.

Secondly, at least libertarians--even Cantwell--give them the common courtesy of saying that, "yeah, in a free society, you'd be free to live as you'd like.  You want to live in a communist commune? Go for it.  Just don't force any unwilling others into it." With them, it's "NO YOU GIVE US MONEY/GUNS/BODIES FOR THE ARMY OR WE KILL YOU BECAUSE ITS OUR RIGHT WAAH!"

Like Cantwell said, if someone starts with a threat, people tend not to be so nice regarding their 'feelings' etc.  So the fact that we haven't just thrown our hands up in exasperation and simply shoot them in the face speaks volumes to OUR civility.

That article is also a super fail for another blatant reason--special pleading.  Having guns makes you a nutter..except for the government and their armies, police, who will take your guns away...with threat of being shot...yeah.

I know right. Most of these gun control advocates also give the government a free pass when it comes to murder. These people also seem to think that if they make the police do all their dirty work they are perfectly non violent. I have this analogy for you. Would you say the Romans were not violent people because most of them personally did not kill barbarians themselves but made the Legionnaires do their dirty work for them? FUCK NO! 

BTW I was thinking about making refutations for all points in a different forum post, think I should?

[Travis Retriever]

I know right. Most of these gun control advocates also give the government a free pass when it comes to murder. These people also seem to think that if they make the police do all their dirty work they are perfectly non violent. I have this analogy for you. Would you say the Romans were not violent people because most of them personally did not kill barbarians themselves but made the Legionnaires do their dirty work for them? FUCK NO! 

BTW I was thinking about making refutations for all points in a different forum post, think I should?

Well said.

If you want to, yes.

[Travis Retriever]

"The practice of circumcision is a widely debated one, with health benefits in one corner and loss of sensation and surgical risks in the other, and little conclusive research to back up either party. "--http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-5-creepiest-products-ever-designed-genitals_p2/

Yup, that's a golden mean/middle of the road fallacy if ever there was one.

Lord T Hawkeye on it (win): The burden of proof is on the ones who want to do the surgery. If they got nothing, then there's no reason to do it.  Discussion over.

[Skm1091]

Well said.

If you want to, yes.

Just out of Curiousity, do you think it might be going too far to say the Romans got what they deserved when the barbarians sacked them?

[MrBogosity]

Just out of Curiousity, do you think it might be going too far to say the Romans got what they deserved when the barbarians sacked them?

Only if you think the people of a country are culpable for the misdeeds of their government.

[evensgrey]

Only if you think the people of a country are culpable for the misdeeds of their government.

Then there's the detail that Rome got sacked by people who were, for the most part, not the same ones (or even the descendants of the ones) that the Roman state had previously attacked.

[MrBogosity]

Then there's the detail that Rome got sacked by people who were, for the most part, not the same ones (or even the descendants of the ones) that the Roman state had previously attacked.

Kind of reminds you of slavery reparations, doesn't it?

[Travis Retriever]

Just out of Curiosity, do you think it might be going too far to say the Romans got what they deserved when the barbarians sacked them?

I second what evensgrey and Shane have said.  No sense opening that original sin can of worms.

[R.E.H.W.R.]

[R.E.H.W.R.]

I second what evensgrey and Shane have said.  No sense opening that original sin can of worms.

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