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Started by Travis Retriever, October 17, 2009, 03:00:20 PM

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Gentlemen, I present a post supporting minimum wage with buzzwords and appeals to emotion EVERYWHERE!

QuoteIf minimum wage laws are so bad than I guess other laws to protect employees should go to. Let's just clean out all those laws. Why hire a high school kid when someone in grade school will do the work for cheaper?

Minimum Wage exist to ensure that business do what they will not do on there own. $10 a hour for minimum wage is creating a living wage. As you started this is for students, rights? That includes college students some of whom don't live at home. They have to pay for college, pay insurance, pay for rent, and still buy food. Even if you live with other people that is extremely are to do on $7.25/hr

The minimum wage is supports to make sure people make a living wage that people who are working also don't need to get Welfare. How about we factor that in. That means for every business that refuses to pay a living wage we, the tax payer, or also paying them. People who work a Walmart and McDonald's receive food stamps. All tax payers our supplementing the pay of people who work at these places.

Your right that if someone does not have a college degree applies for a job they will win out over the High School grad but if those jobs were meant for people without degrees McDonald's could just not hire people as they are "over qualified". Any way you cut it this goes back to large company's that make more money than normally people can even picture not paying people a living wage when we all know then could.

As for at the College Professor... You know that does not mean a lot right? Even people like Sigmund Freud have had there work mostly debunked. It was a PhD level economist who came up with trickle-down economics and that has not worked. Yes, having a degree is important it does show you know a lot about the field you are in but it does not always mean you are right out that your thesis even presented as fact will play out like you say.

Human Greed is the issue here. We live in a state of social-economic inequality that we have not seen the great depression era. The more the people at the have the more they want. Human greed is why we need these laws. Because people will not do the right thing on there own sometimes. Once again with out those laws we would still have over a 40-hour work week with no over time and child labor would still be a thing.

Quote from: D on March 23, 2014, 02:58:45 PM
Gentlemen, I present a post supporting minimum wage with buzzwords and appeals to emotion EVERYWHERE!

I have to tell this economic illiterate this. Okay then raise the minimum wage to 1000/hr and let's see how many are able to keep their jobs.  Let's also see how much the cost of living goes up.

Quote from: D on March 23, 2014, 02:58:45 PM
Gentlemen, I present a post supporting minimum wage with buzzwords and appeals to emotion EVERYWHERE!

And, of course, forgotten in all of that is that Minimum Wage laws DON'T WORK. Amazing how they keep skipping over that part, isn't it?

Quote from: MrBogosity on March 23, 2014, 03:46:51 PM
And, of course, forgotten in all of that is that Minimum Wage laws DON'T WORK. Amazing how they keep skipping over that part, isn't it?
Indeed.  As I told D in response to that screed, 1) Many of these EBIL big corporations are already paying MORE than minimum wage to begin with. 2) So the OP's solution of them not having enough money to get by is to put them out of work, making $15/hour working at zero hours? 3)  If him and the other "LIVING WAGE!11" window breakers care that much, why don't they just donate/invest/give their own money?
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

Quote from: MrBogosity on March 23, 2014, 03:46:51 PM
And, of course, forgotten in all of that is that Minimum Wage laws DON'T WORK. Amazing how they keep skipping over that part, isn't it?

Well the guy basically held a "fuck you" attitude to the people who are hurt most by it, as if college students are somehow more deserving of jobs than people like me who chose not to go to high school, so I can't expect him to actually pay attention to little things like facts.

Quote from: Skm1091 on March 23, 2014, 03:45:44 PM
I have to tell this economic illiterate this. Okay then raise the minimum wage to 1000/hr and let's see how many are able to keep their jobs.  Let's also see how much the cost of living goes up.

*Bill Clinton Voice* " That would depend on what the value of 1000 is after we do that" I mean it doesn't mean much making 1000/hr if stuff like bread is 250,000.

Quote from: dallen68 on March 23, 2014, 06:20:20 PM
*Bill Clinton Voice* " That would depend on what the value of 1000 is after we do that" I mean it doesn't mean much making 1000/hr if stuff like bread is 250,000.

bread was like 25 cents in 50s wasn't it?

I can't remember if a shared this before.
"The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be."
Lao Tzu

Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on March 23, 2014, 07:10:34 PM
I can't remember if a shared this before.


I had no idea that Humans were insects....you know, since BT is only harmful to insects...

and seriously, I'm sick and tired of people referencing that stupid paper that used those cancer rats.
Meh

Quote from: Skm1091 on March 23, 2014, 06:48:15 PM
bread was like 25 cents in 50s wasn't it?

This really handy suite of sites only goes back to 1960, but:

http://www.1960sflashback.com/1960/economy.asp

Cost of a new home:    $16,500.00
Cost of a first-class stamp:    $0.04
Cost of a gallon of regular gas:    $0.31
Cost of a dozen eggs:    $0.57
Cost of a gallon of Milk:    $0.49

You can go to whatever year you want, 1960 to present.

Here's one that covers bread by decade:

http://www.thepeoplehistory.com/70yearsofpricechange.html

Average Cost Loaf of Bread
1930 9 cents, 1940 10 cents, 1950 12 cents, 1960 22 cents, 1970 25 cents, 1980 50 cents, 1990 70 cents, 2008 $2.79, 2013 $1.98

Quote from: MrBogosity on March 23, 2014, 07:14:09 PM
This really handy suite of sites only goes back to 1960, but:

http://www.1960sflashback.com/1960/economy.asp

Cost of a new home:    $16,500.00
Cost of a first-class stamp:    $0.04
Cost of a gallon of regular gas:    $0.31
Cost of a dozen eggs:    $0.57
Cost of a gallon of Milk:    $0.49

You can go to whatever year you want, 1960 to present.

Here's one that covers bread by decade:

http://www.thepeoplehistory.com/70yearsofpricechange.html

Average Cost Loaf of Bread
1930 9 cents, 1940 10 cents, 1950 12 cents, 1960 22 cents, 1970 25 cents, 1980 50 cents, 1990 70 cents, 2008 $2.79, 2013 $1.98
One more reason an inflationary fiat currency (are there any OTHER kinds of fiat currency?) sucks balls. T_T
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

Quote from: MrBogosity on March 23, 2014, 07:14:09 PM
This really handy suite of sites only goes back to 1960, but:

http://www.1960sflashback.com/1960/economy.asp

Cost of a new home:    $16,500.00
Cost of a first-class stamp:    $0.04
Cost of a gallon of regular gas:    $0.31
Cost of a dozen eggs:    $0.57
Cost of a gallon of Milk:    $0.49

You can go to whatever year you want, 1960 to present.

Here's one that covers bread by decade:

http://www.thepeoplehistory.com/70yearsofpricechange.html

Average Cost Loaf of Bread
1930 9 cents, 1940 10 cents, 1950 12 cents, 1960 22 cents, 1970 25 cents, 1980 50 cents, 1990 70 cents, 2008 $2.79, 2013 $1.98

That quares with my memories, I recall a loaf of bread being 97 cents CANADIAN as recently as 1997.



I don't get why people condemn this.
"The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be."
Lao Tzu

Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on March 24, 2014, 08:57:50 PM

I don't get why people condemn this.

Not that I agree with any of the following, but:

1. Some people believe that if something is important enough to say, you need to say it to them, not text, call, or e-mail. These are usually the people hanging around Starbucks loudly complaining about everybody being on their smart phones.

2. Other people feel that it (texting) lacks the capability of showing the correct amount of empathy the situation requires.  Of course, in some cases, that may not be a bad thing, like when the person delivering the news lacks the capability of showing...