Fail Quotes

[Travis Retriever]

he may have, but I'm unfazed by it. Then again, I come from a culture where we have jokes like this one--which has two intended (equally unpleasant) implications:

And I thought some American jokes (George Carlin) were edgy/provocative. O_o

[Altimadark]

White privilege is the liberal equivalent to original sin.

The sentence itself you used to describe that article is a fav quote though.
Kinda makes me want to rename the "Original Sin Fallacy" to  the "White Privilege Fallacy" when dealing with feminists.

On a related note, isn't this also the feminist equivalent to that "Women make 75/80/85% of what Men make" statistic?

[MrBogosity]

The sentence itself you used to describe that article is a fav quote though.
Kinda makes me want to rename the "Original Sin Fallacy" to  the "White Privilege Fallacy" when dealing with feminists.

It's more of an ad hominem. You're a white guy, so they get to ignore your intellectual arguments because, white privilege!

[Travis Retriever]

On a related note, isn't this also the feminist equivalent to that "Women make 75/80/85% of what Men make" statistic?

Only more fleshed out and worse.  And yeah, that "men make 75 cents for every dollar that men make" statistic has been debunked so many times it's pathetic!  Hell, Hawkeye exposed the absurdity of it without having to look at a single study:  If it were true, why would anyone ever hire a man?

It's more of an ad hominem. You're a white guy, so they get to ignore your intellectual arguments because, white privilege!

Yeah.  Sounds about right.

[Lord T Hawkeye]

It's more of an ad hominem. You're a white guy, so they get to ignore your intellectual arguments because, white privilege!

Which is actually a contradiction.  If I had priviledge, SHE would be the one being told to be quiet.

[Travis Retriever]

Which is actually a contradiction.  If I had privilege, SHE would be the one being told to be quiet.

And you just earned your 46th cluon for that.

[R.E.H.W.R.]

I'm Robert in this conversation.
https://www.facebook.com/ryansteinbruner/posts/10201699518108877?comment_id=5750465&offset=0&total_comments=33&ref=notif&notif_t=share_reply

[Altimadark]

I'm Robert in this conversation.
https://www.facebook.com/ryansteinbruner/posts/10201699518108877?comment_id=5750465&offset=0&total_comments=33&ref=notif&notif_t=share_reply

Could us cavemen without Facebook get a screenshot or other method of viewing this?

[R.E.H.W.R.]

Could us cavemen without Facebook get a screenshot or other method of viewing this?

Its kinda of a long conversation, the forum would let me post a screenshot. too big I guess.

[Travis Retriever]

Could us cavemen without Facebook get a screenshot or other method of viewing this?

Seconded.

[MrBogosity]

Its kinda of a long conversation, the forum would let me post a screenshot. too big I guess.

You can stick it on Flickr or somewhere, or email it to me and I'll post it.

[Altimadark]

I was going to compare this to mental ping-pong, but this is more like playing practice tennis with a wall, or something.

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DrunkTankGunner
I just simply don't believe that forcing people to pay $0.10 for a trash bag is more harmful than the good that is done for the environment.

Altimadark
...if your way, your idea, is that good, why do you need to use force?

You need to use force because the economic incentives outweigh the environmental ones, and if the government won't stand up for the environment, then who will?

Where is your proof that government is even capable of caring for the environment?

The proof is in the very policy we're discussing, it doesn't need to go any further than that.

How many are doing it for the tax revenue or the political clout, and not just for the sake of the environment?

See "The Pollution Solution: Stopping the environment's worst enemy." Government pollutes and gets away with it with impunity. Now tell me why the plastic bag law matters, and nothing else.

How do I know libertarians aren't opposing it for tax revenue or the political clout? You need to stick to the facts.

So you're suggesting that libertarians are opposing a new tax in order to increase tax revenue. And since there are next to no libertarian elected officials, the political clout in question is non-existent. I know I keep bringing this up, but you haven't given this issue much consideration at all.

[dallen68]

I was going to compare this to mental ping-pong, but this is more like playing practice tennis with a wall, or something.

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DrunkTankGunner
I just simply don't believe that forcing people to pay $0.10 for a trash bag is more harmful than the good that is done for the environment.

Altimadark
...if your way, your idea, is that good, why do you need to use force?

You need to use force because the economic incentives outweigh the environmental ones, and if the government won't stand up for the environment, then who will?

Where is your proof that government is even capable of caring for the environment?

The proof is in the very policy we're discussing, it doesn't need to go any further than that.

How many are doing it for the tax revenue or the political clout, and not just for the sake of the environment?

See "The Pollution Solution: Stopping the environment's worst enemy." Government pollutes and gets away with it with impunity. Now tell me why the plastic bag law matters, and nothing else.

How do I know libertarians aren't opposing it for tax revenue or the political clout? You need to stick to the facts.

So you're suggesting that libertarians are opposing a new tax in order to increase tax revenue. And since there are next to no libertarian elected officials, the political clout in question is non-existent. I know I keep bringing this up, but you haven't given this issue much consideration at all.

Meh. The purpose of a trash bag tax is to increase revenues. As far as any environmental impact it may have, it's a secondary incidental result at best. Private merchandisers, such as Walmart and Costco are having a much more distinguishable effect through selling re-usable bags than any state or local gov't is through a tax.

If they were serious about it being about the environmental impact of the bags, they would either make it a significant enough tax that consumers would actually consider something else, do to the "economic incentive" or ban it altogether; or they'd give a rebate for purchasing (and using) the aforementioned re-usables. They're not. They're putting a marginal tax on it to raise revenue.

[Travis Retriever]

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Every comment left by Damara Megido is an epic fail.

[dallen68]

Every comment left by Damara Megido is an epic fail.

Link from said Damara would help.