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Quote from: nilecroc on December 02, 2013, 11:50:48 PM
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/269400.php

Does anyone no how to find out if this is peer reviewed? Also, the comments point out the flaws in this article. Now excuse me while I go drive my car into a ditch because playing violent video games has gotten rid of self control. Also, his moral engagement spectrum is bullshit, and really fucking subjective. Someone with more knowledge on how scientific studies work should point out the holes in this study. Also, any decision you make reduces your self control, it's called ego depletion.

According to the "about us"
QuoteThe editorial team provides news from evidence-based, peer-reviewed studies, along with accurate, unbiased and informative content from governments (e.g. FDA, CDC, NIH, NHS), medical societies, royal colleges, professional associations, patients' groups, pharmaceutical and biotech companies, among others. Medical News Today produces original, timely and authoritative information from respected, credible sources.

According to Linkdin, http://www.linkedin.com/pub/honor-whiteman/45/3ab/532 Honor Whiteman is just a journalist, and has no background on the subject at hand. That being said, the peer-reviewed paper that she based her article on is http://spp.sagepub.com/content/early/2013/10/28/1948550613509286.abstract. However, the abstract only says the investigators "predicted" the results Whiteman claimed. Beyond that, it costs $25 to read the full text of the study, unless you happen to be a student, then you can sign in with your schools credentials. Ask the librarian at your school if you don't already have it.

Quote from: dallen68 on December 03, 2013, 01:53:24 AM
According to the "about us"
According to Linkdin, http://www.linkedin.com/pub/honor-whiteman/45/3ab/532 Honor Whiteman is just a journalist, and has no background on the subject at hand. That being said, the peer-reviewed paper that she based her article on is http://spp.sagepub.com/content/early/2013/10/28/1948550613509286.abstract. However, the abstract only says the investigators "predicted" the results Whiteman claimed. Beyond that, it costs $25 to read the full text of the study, unless you happen to be a student, then you can sign in with your schools credentials. Ask the librarian at your school if you don't already have it.
No way is this study unbiased. One off his measurements is how "immoral" people behave after playing a "violent" video game, which is most games including mario (jumping ongoombas to kill them is still violent even if blood/gore isn't shown). One of his criteria for "moral" behavior is how likely you are to break the law after you played a game.
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Quote from: nilecroc on December 03, 2013, 12:17:39 PM
No way is this study unbiased. One off his measurements is how "immoral" people behave after playing a "violent" video game, which is most games including mario (jumping ongoombas to kill them is still violent even if blood/gore isn't shown). One of his criteria for "moral" behavior is how likely you are to break the law after you played a game.
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The study is very biased. It fails (if Whiteman's reporting is accurate - which is a key point), to control for at least 4 pertinent variables. (That I can think of)

1. No one took a control survey before the games were played to get a base-line (ie. what is the moral baseline for the participating children)
2. No one had a group each have chocolates, no chocolates, and a healthy snack. (i.e. to eliminate the chocolate as the causal factor)
3. The question was "Compared to other criminal activites, shoplifting is morally harmless (or acceptable)?" Which is a relative question, which is unfair to the children being judged on their "moral disengagement". Compared to other criminal activities, shoplifting *is* relatively harmless. They should have been asked if they think it's OK to steal from the store - with no modifying conditions. 
4. No one was playing a "violent" game where you weren't role-playing a criminal -- or weren't "necessarily" playing a criminal.
5. The "non-violent" control games are really lame.
6. They didn't have anyone play any real life (like football) or violent board games (which I can't remember the names of) to tell if it's the violence of the game, or the video game.


From Anarchist Memes (an An-Com page) on Facebook:
QuoteYou think anarchism means we should all have some sort of right to say whatever you feel like? So let me get this straight, people think that in a stateless society, everyone is going to allow others be a massive asshole whenever they talk? Without the police to uphold liberal ideas such as freedom to be bigot, I doubt people would tolerate intolerance with mere simple verbal disagreement. Without state protection, oppression (from bigotry to patriarchy to capitalism) wouldn't thrive as much as it does now. That's sort of the point of the anti-state position of anarchism. [K|E|P]

Ben Swann needs to fuck right off.

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"The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be."
Lao Tzu


Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on December 04, 2013, 12:04:22 AM


Let me guess, this was either on being liberal, or is probably on there by now. Remember when the government printed and spent to much in order to pay for those things, and caused the market to crash?
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http://gawker.com/here-is-your-bible-of-privatization-horror-stories-1476546354

The article is fail. The comments, more so. But this one comment is simply too much: http://gawker.com/this-is-pretty-much-what-im-thinking-might-i-add-gover-1476590604

Quote*Governments have to be answerable, and therefore, more transparent to, and accessible to the public for accountability. Businesses do not have the same responsibility, especially if they're very large.

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I'm sorry. Is this the same government that secretly funneled trillions of dollars to big banks and corporations through the Fed? The same government that kept classified footage of solders gunning down innocent civilians? The same government that has been collecting billions of phone records from American citizens? The same government that has been prosecuting or chasing the very same whistleblowers who leaked this information to the public? That same "transparent" government?


No Sovereign but God. No King but Jesus. No Princess but Celestia.

December 04, 2013, 11:38:54 PM #4719 Last Edit: December 05, 2013, 12:01:26 AM by tnu
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from the commentsof this video.

QuoteSo if you live in a poor area, fuck you. No roads for poor people.
What a vapid, stupid answer to a serious question. The fact is under the libertarian wet dream there would be massive concentrations of power and massive abuses of it, and no one to check that power. Just look at the corporate world, very little regulation and intervention, yet massive corruption and disregard for human beings.
People would be much worse off, because resources are not centralized. We would end up with areas of the country being piss poor. Which already kind of sounds like the US.


Quote from: tnu on December 04, 2013, 11:38:54 PM
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from the commentsof this video.

Also LOL at all of the humorless morons who are telling here there are two Rs in "libary."



Need I say anything?


No Sovereign but God. No King but Jesus. No Princess but Celestia.

Quote from: BlameThe1st on December 05, 2013, 04:00:14 PM
Need I say anything?
Oh wow.  Is that a parody made by libertarians?
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537



No Sovereign but God. No King but Jesus. No Princess but Celestia.

Quote from: BlameThe1st on December 06, 2013, 11:40:05 PM


I'm sorry Unions nowadays are little more than monopolies. They used to serve the workers, at least until they were turned into cartels by the government, I believe sometime during the great depression. (Am I correct Shane?)