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Quote from: nilecroc on October 09, 2013, 09:14:03 AM
In legitimate eminent domain actions the owner(s) are fairly compensated for the property taken. As such no theft.

Theft occurs because of the owner's involuntary deprivation of the article stolen. As such, eminent domain remains theft.

For a transfer to be compensated fairly, both parties must agree on what the exchange is to be, and this does not occur in eminent domain, even if the property taken is replaced with something that would generally be agreed to be of equal value.

In the comments to this video:
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"Since slaveless societies EXISTED throughout the world (including nations comparable to the US), THAT was evidence that abolition of slavery could work. But you're making a claim WITHOUT supportive evidence, only ASSERTING that large statelessness can work.

You go out of your way to insult me for challenging your claims...yet I'M the evil fuck? You evidently have some serious anger issues to work out. Are you capable of mature debate or is this the best I can expect from you?"--Underlings


I"m surprised Shane didn't respond to this epic fail by Underlings.  My thoughts on it:
Yes, just like there have been examples of very successful anarchist societies before.  Medieval Anarchic Ireland which lasted for 2000 years being a good example.  And yet it doesn't stop your ass just like the examples of slave-less societies didn't stop those supporting slavery.  Again, you still haven't met your burden of proof--slavery and statism are BOTH positive claims on the liberty of an unwilling other.  Ergo, they have the burden of proof.  One that you have not met.  He's not claiming stateless can work.  He's stating that YOU haven't met your burden of proof that YOUR state aperatus does what it says it's supposed to.  Just like a fucking homeopath, you continually weasel out of it.  Eat a sack of shit, OP.

Oh, cry me a river.  You came into a libertarian video supporting horseshit by constantly shifting the burden of proof and throwing just as much at him.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
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October 15, 2013, 11:47:58 AM #4428 Last Edit: October 15, 2013, 11:54:52 AM by nilecroc
  Driving is a __________ society has entrusted to us when we are issued a license.

   freedom
   privilege
   right
   liberty

A. is the answer.

This is from a defensive driving course. I really want to bash my head after reading shit like this, and this is the first of 8 units.

My bad. Correct answer:   

Our society gives you the freedom to come and go where and when you wish. However, driving is not a constitutional right -- it is a privilege you earned upon receiving your license. You are obligated to follow State licensing regulations and rules-of-the-road in order to keep that privilege.

Driving isn't a fucking privilege. I'm so tired hearing this line parroted everywhere. Last time I'm getting a ticket.

Good ole liberal luddism

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QuoteWonder how many benefits or retirement 401k contributions these guys will need on the docks?  or in the warehouses.  Or digging ditches, building roads or anything like that....

Quotedriving is not a constitutional right -- it is a privilege you earned upon receiving your license. You are obligated to follow State licensing regulations and rules-of-the-road in order to keep that privilege
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Well, technically you can only grant a privilege if you have the power to grant or deny that privilege. Since the state has no ability to render you incapable of operating a motor vehicle, driving can't be a privilege. It would be prohibitively expensive, although possible, to prevent you from using state-owned roads; which is actually the privilege they claim to grant. It is eminately  easy to click on "make this license invalid" - so technically, having a valid license is the privilege.

Quote from: dallen68 on October 15, 2013, 12:23:38 PM
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Well, technically you can only grant a privilege if you have the power to grant or deny that privilege. Since the state has no ability to render you incapable of operating a motor vehicle, driving can't be a privilege. It would be prohibitively expensive, although possible, to prevent you from using state-owned roads; which is actually the privilege they claim to grant. It is eminately  easy to click on "make this license invalid" - so technically, having a valid license is the privilege.
It's saying driving itself is a privilege. It's like saying that being a barber is a privilege because you need a state license to legally practice. That doesn't make it a privilege, that just means that your local mafia has say in who can and can't do it under threat of force. 


Quote from: nilecroc on October 15, 2013, 12:29:51 PM
It's saying driving itself is a privilege. It's like saying that being a barber is a privilege because you need a state license to legally practice. That doesn't make it a privilege, that just means that your local mafia has say in who can and can't do it under threat of force.

Well, in this case, under threat of sending you a bill, and some threatening letters if you not pay the bill. But I know what you mean about the defensive driving course. I now wish that I had just paid the ticket, took the 2 points, and got on with my life.


Quote from: dallen68 on October 15, 2013, 01:43:52 PM
Well, in this case, under threat of sending you a bill, and some threatening letters if you not pay the bill. But I know what you mean about the defensive driving course. I now wish that I had just paid the ticket, took the 2 points, and got on with my life.
Actually, they put a warrant out for your arrest if you you refuse to pay the ticket.

Quote from: nilecroc on October 15, 2013, 01:57:23 PM
Actually, they put a warrant out for your arrest if you you refuse to pay the ticket.

It depends on what the ticket was for. Unless it was something major, they usually send a summons to your house; or a thing that says your registration has been canceled.

Quote from: dallen68 on October 15, 2013, 02:07:23 PM
It depends on what the ticket was for. Unless it was something major, they usually send a summons to your house; or a thing that says your registration has been canceled.
I went 80 in a 65.

Quote from: nilecroc on October 15, 2013, 11:47:58 AM
  Driving is a __________ society has entrusted to us when we are issued a license.

   freedom
   privilege
   right
   liberty

A. is the answer.

This is from a defensive driving course. I really want to bash my head after reading shit like this, and this is the first of 8 units.

My bad. Correct answer:   

Our society gives you the freedom to come and go where and when you wish. However, driving is not a constitutional right -- it is a privilege you earned upon receiving your license. You are obligated to follow State licensing regulations and rules-of-the-road in order to keep that privilege.

Driving isn't a fucking privilege. I'm so tired hearing this line parroted everywhere. Last time I'm getting a ticket.
Seconded.  Sounds like they hammered that crap to you when you were in driving school/class too. >_<
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537


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QuoteIf the government can have nuclear power stations, I can have one in my basement?
If the government can have a standing army, Bill Gates can have one too?
If the government can print money, I can too?
I dunno. I think the government monopoly on some things is beneficial to society.