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Quote from: D on January 29, 2013, 07:39:16 PM
I think this may very well be the first time The Skeptical Libertarian has left me in a feeling of disgust.

He posted this:
That isn't really the fail, but the fail shows up when he was talking about Paul Krugman:
QuoteHe doesn't do economics anymore--he mostly sticks to partisan hackery--but Paul Krugman is or could be a great economist, and he deserved his Nobel.

He actually did. Krugman's work in New Trade Theory (which is what he received the Nobel Prize for) gave us a good understanding of how an economic equilibrium applies to international trade, including network effects and factors of scale.

The thing to remember is, a podiatrist might be a brilliant MD, but you still shouldn't go to him to diagnose a brain tumor. Most of what Krugman blogs about is WAY outside his specialty.

For anyone looking for a good laugh, I recommend reading the comments after Judge Andrew Napolitano posted his opinion on immigration.

Quote from: D on January 30, 2013, 06:19:21 AM
For anyone looking for a good laugh, I recommend reading the comments after Judge Andrew Napolitano posted his opinion on immigration.

Varney said he was "way out there." If the idea that we shouldn't use violence against peaceful people and arrest their freedom of movement is "way out there," we've got a LONG way to go...

Dumbest comment that sums up their mentality perfectly: "Illegal immigration is a crime." Um, begging the question much? It's illegal because it's a crime. The question is what JUSTIFICATION there is for the crime. Helping slaves escape used to be a crime. Giving medical marijuana patients their medicine is a crime.

Quote from: MrBogosity on January 30, 2013, 07:08:26 AM
Varney said he was "way out there." If the idea that we shouldn't use violence against peaceful people and arrest their freedom of movement is "way out there," we've got a LONG way to go...

Dumbest comment that sums up their mentality perfectly: "Illegal immigration is a crime." Um, begging the question much? It's illegal because it's a crime. The question is what JUSTIFICATION there is for the crime. Helping slaves escape used to be a crime. Giving medical marijuana patients their medicine is a crime.

I just went back to that thread and this delicious little piece of hilarious fail came up:
QuoteJudge I'm a big fan, but this is where we part ways. They are citizens of where ever they came from. Let them go make their country as great as ours if they decide to do so. If not tough crap I don't care, they have no right to go where ever they want, just the same as we don't have a right to go where ever we want willy nilly and have citizenship rights where ever we want. If that is true the entire world then has voter rights in the USA. THAT IS NOT, I REPEAT NOT, ACCEPTABLE!!!

>If not tough crap I don't care

And Republicans wonder why people call them heartless.

Mmmmmm that's good hypocrisy.

And this is yet another amazing thing about statists: They say to libertarians, "If you don't like the way this country works, LEAVE!" Then they say to foreigners, "If you don't like the way YOUR country works, DON'T COME HERE!"

The cognitive dissonance of "they have no right to go where ever they want" and "they should leave if they don't like it" is VERY indicative of the unthinking dogmatism inherent in the Cult of the Omnipotent State.

http://www.metrojacksonville.com/forum/index.php/topic,17360.0.html

This whole thread is full of fail but my favorite has to be

QuoteMore correctly, we spend the money that we decide to tax ourselves, on projects that we feel are worth funding.

If you don't think that government spending is an investment in the economy, try running your business without the public roads.

And
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what a bizarre and completely dishonest statement.  Are you under the impression that children under the age of 16 and senior citizens who have paid their forty years of income taxes and are now retired are either investing your money or making decisions about your income?

You should move to alaska my friend.  They have milliions of unimproved, untaxed acres of land just waiting for guys like you to get out and rough it like the rugged anti tax titan that you apparently imagine yourself.

"If you don't think that government spending is an investment in the economy, try running your business without the public roads."

Yeah, cos without government roads, everyone would just be standing around scratching their heads, saying, "Duh, I wish I had some way to get places." Riiiiight.

Quote from: MrBogosity on January 30, 2013, 08:48:08 AM
And this is yet another amazing thing about statists: They say to libertarians, "If you don't like the way this country works, LEAVE!" Then they say to foreigners, "If you don't like the way YOUR country works, DON'T COME HERE!"

The cognitive dissonance of "they have no right to go where ever they want" and "they should leave if they don't like it" is VERY indicative of the unthinking dogmatism inherent in the Cult of the Omnipotent State.

And even then, go where?  Another tax cage?
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

Well, I've got another self-appointed Defender of the Weak here on this video:

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Yes, let's just disrespect people with autism and other disorders by pretending we need guys like this clown to stick up for them, as if they can't stick up for themselves. Let's make a manufactroversy for our own purposes so that we can denigrate an innocent man and then accusing HIM of levying insults at US.

Man, I'm REALLY sick of people like that. They're so much of what's wrong with America today.

This was linked in that hodgepodge of a thread on immigration on Facebook.

Quote"If anyone's going to be deported, it's going to be you! ... Get out! We are the future. You're old and tired. Go on. We have beaten you - leave like beaten rats. You old white people, it is your duty to die. Right now, we're already controlling those elections, whether it's by violence or nonviolence. Through love of having children we're going to take over."

--Augustin Cebada, information minister of Brown Berets, militant para-military soldiers of Aztlan shouting at U.S. citizens at an Independence Day rally in Los Angeles.

Judge Andrew Napolitano on the Jon Stewart Show, November 15, 2012: He is for open borders. Said people are born to move freely about. Right, judge. That includes rapists, murderers and terrorists.


You've probably heard there is yet another immigration "reform" agreement headed up by four members of the Democratic/Communist Party USA and four Republicans:

Schumer, Dick Durbin of Illinois, Robert Menendez of New Jersey and Michael Bennet of Colorado; and Republicans McCain, Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, Marco Rubio of Florida and Jeff Flake of Arizona.

Earllier this date I called my unlawfully seated Senator, John Cornyn, and told his staff in DC and Lubbock, TX, this:

1.  Illegal means illegal. They have no right to be on U.S. soil, period.

2. This is the same crap Ronald Reagan pulled in 1986 when he signed into law another phony immigration "reform" law. THAT law opened the flood gates for the illegal invasion that's gone on for decades.

3.  There is no way to do background checks on 11 MILLION plus illegals.

I don't care if they've been in this country one hour or 20 years, they have no right to be on U.S. soil, period. There aren't enough employees that work for Immigration & Customs to fact check and hunt down 11 million or more applications to verify the illegal came from where he/she said they did, any criminal record and so forth. It will be more slip shod run 'em through because the Democratic/Communist Party USA wants them as voters.

Not be outdone on sucking up to a particular ethnic group, the Republicans also want to reward those who sneak into our country because they also want Latino votes at the expense of making citizenship meaningless in this country. What whores. I'm sorry, but that's what they are in my eyes.

4.  More Americans die every year at the hands of illegal aliens than were killed on 9/11. Some are caught, some not. Reward them with a "path to citizenship"? A path to citizenship for both sets of my grand parents was years on a waiting list, pass an English test and show a doctor's certificate less than 30 days old that you did not have TB. Then, a five year wait before they could take their citizenship test.

5.  Millions of illegal aliens, regardless of country of origin hold jobs that belong to Americans, naturalized Americans and legal aliens who went through the legal process.

With 25 million Americans unemployed, the eight miscreants above want to reward those who slither across our borders like thieves in the night by allowing them to keep jobs they have no legal right to hold.

6.  President Eisenhower deported millions of illegals. It can be done again, but that's not the agenda in Washington, DC.

7.  Illegals steal our jobs and resources. Bankrupt hospitals, over crowd America's schools when they have no right to be here.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/28/bipartisan-group-8-senators-reach-deal-on-immigration-changes/NovartisOTC.us@novartis.com

--Creating a path to citizenship for the estimated illegal immigrants already in the U.S., contingent upon securing the border and better tracking of people here on visas.

BULL. There has been no real effort to seal off the southern border. It's all talk and delay, delay, delay.

--Reforming the legal immigration system, including awarding green cards to immigrants who obtain advanced degrees in science, math, technology or engineering from an American university.

WHAT? No illegal alien has any legal right to attend any American University. So, reward illegals for stealing a classroom seat that belongs to an American citizen.

--Creating an effective employment verification system to ensure that employers do not hire illegal immigrants.

E-Verify works pretty good, but there are even more stringent ways to clean illegals off the employment rolls. Dry up the employment and they will go back to whatever country they came from.

Social security and Medicare are almost $100 TRILLION in unpaid mandates. It is absurd to even think those obligations can be met. It is a cruel hoax on the American people.

Medicare and union pensions are bankrupting states. Giving amnesty to 11 million, which will end up being more, mark my words, is to bring new bux into those Ponzi schemes in an effort to keep them afloat. It won't work. You and I will get soaked, again:
Cost of giving illegal immigrants path to citizenship could outweigh fiscal benefits

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/28/cost-giving-illegal-immigrants-path-to-citizenship-could-outweigh-fiscal/

"While most studies, including one by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, have focused on the impact at the state and local levels, where most of the socials services for illegal immigrants are provided, Camarota has also looked at the impact on the federal government.

"He estimated in an often-cited 2004 study that illegal immigrants paying taxes and getting access to such social services as Medicaid or food stamps would cost taxpayers $29 billion annually.

"Contrary to the conventional wisdom, he argued, the main reason illegal immigrants create a large deficit is not their heavy use of social services but their lack of education, which results in low-paying jobs and small income-tax contributions.

"On average, the costs that illegal households impose on federal coffers are less than half that of other households, but their tax payments are only one-fourth that of other households," writes Camarota, in his 2004 study "The High Cost of Cheap Labor: Illegal Immigration and the Federal Budget."

Low paying jobs? Illegals have no right to any level paying job.

$29 BILLION every year? That is 2004 dollar value. You watch, if this goes through it will be a lot higher as the value of the dollar continues to deteriorate. That means more of your paycheck or retirement will be pinched in taxes to give dishonest people a free ride.

Here are a few sobering facts: -

I used the numbers below in an April 2010 column

<>The numbers are now higher by two million more illegals:

We Spend about $397 Billion dollars in Welfare and Other Social Services for Illegals since 1996
There are about 5 million children of Illegals in the Public Schools
There are  420,137 Illegals in the State of Arizona
There are Currently 22,753,048 illegal immigrants in this country in our jails and 740,000 fugitives
They hold 11,570,070 Skilled jobs in this country.
Arrest numbers signal 9 percent jump in illegal immigration in 2012

Sneaking across our border is not immigration. It's a full scale invasion.

Here's another dose of reality - reward them?

I hope you will also call your US Senator and give him/her a piece of your mind.

A couple of years ago we the people stopped the last attempt by the impostor president and his minions by melting down the phone lines in DC and their district offices. We defeated them then and we can do it again. Call your senator's DC and district offices. I did. Keep calling. Encourage family and friends to do the same.

I don't know about you, but I'm sick and tire of more immigration "reform" bills that turn into amnesty for millions who then have more off spring by the millions. This is just another free ride for law breakers.

Deport not reward.

Contact for senate: www.senate.gov

Flashback: Mexican pirates vs. constitutional militia

There are a bunch of various links in this massive wall of text, but you can just go to the source for them.

Quote from: D on January 30, 2013, 04:35:11 PM
This was linked in that hodgepodge of a thread on immigration on Facebook.

There are a bunch of various links in this massive wall of text, but you can just go to the source for them.

QuoteThis is the same crap Ronald Reagan pulled in 1986 when he signed into law another phony immigration "reform" law. THAT law opened the flood gates for the illegal invasion that's gone on for decades.

Illegal immigrants commit violent crimes at a lower rate than the average population. This must be the most peaceful, polite invasion ever!

QuoteMore Americans die every year at the hands of illegal aliens than were killed on 9/11.

Even if true, it's an Over 9000 fallacy. Water kills more people every year than were killed on 9/11. Besides, even if this stat is true, and even if every one of those deaths constitutes murder, then that's still 1 per 100,000 murders--again, lower than the national average.

QuoteMillions of illegal aliens, regardless of country of origin hold jobs that belong to Americans, naturalized Americans and legal aliens who went through the legal process.

Oh, those jobs "belong to" Americans? How can you own a job? Besides, Say's Law, yo. Say's Law!

QuotePresident Eisenhower deported millions of illegals.

President Eisenhower was a dick.

QuoteIllegals steal our jobs and resources.

No, they don't. Not only do they work at jobs, but they consume in the economy just like everybody else. That consumption creates another job to replace the one they took. Again, Say's Law.

Then there's the bogus blaming illegal immigrants for America's entitlement programs being in trouble. Never mind the fact that illegal immigrants go on welfare to a MUCH lower degree than the average population.

The rest is just as bogus. Nothing to see here, folks.

Albert Einstein was an immigrant.  Is anyone gonna claim the US would have been better off without him?
I recently heard that the word heretic is derived from the greek work heriticos which means "able to choose"
The more you know...

Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on January 30, 2013, 08:31:49 PM
Albert Einstein was an immigrant.  Is anyone gonna claim the US would have been better off without him?

Oh, that's totally different! Don't you realize that was a different time and culture? What's your alternative, making up the rules as you go along, in some kind of subjective morality? You don't know the history behind it! You're taking the passage out of context! You need to come over to the side of right and righteousness before you can understand...

...uh, wait, I forgot, are we talking about the Bible or politics?

Quote from: MrBogosity on January 30, 2013, 08:37:03 PM
Oh, that's totally different! Don't you realize that was a different time and culture? What's your alternative, making up the rules as you go along, in some kind of subjective morality? You don't know the history behind it! You're taking the passage out of context! You need to come over to the side of right and righteousness before you can understand...

...uh, wait, I forgot, are we talking about the Bible or politics?

Their actual answer would be he came from Europe and is white.

Don't believe me? In that first bit I posted, there was one particular post that all but confirmed the true racist nature behind this issue:
QuoteProtecting its own ethnic heritage is a natural right!

There you have it folks. White people afraid that the nation will somehow be less white if we open the borders.

Quote from: D on January 30, 2013, 09:22:25 PM
Their actual answer would be he came from Europe and is white.

Don't believe me? In that first bit I posted, there was one particular post that all but confirmed the true racist nature behind this issue:
There you have it folks. White people afraid that the nation will somehow be less white if we open the borders.

We actually have a couple of people like that back on GT. At any rate, I also got this gem from somebody who I otherwise respect.


QuoteMostly, I like Coolidge because he's the closest thing we've ever had to a libertarian president, and we actually had no major crisises under him (the few that we had he averted pretty quickly). He was a man who could do by not doing.

And to be fair Cooldig was KIND OF small government but I don't think  he was enough to warrent the reputation. I pretty much quotes Shane on this one.