Fail Quotes

[R.E.H.W.R.]

Nope. That's cronyism.

I don't know. I don't quite bite the "Capitalism = free markets" thing.

[AnCap Dave]

I don't know. I don't quite bite the "Capitalism = free markets" thing.

That's what capitalism means. Capitalism is voluntary exchange without the involvement of coercion.

[R.E.H.W.R.]

That's what capitalism means. Capitalism is voluntary exchange without the involvement of coercion.

So a group that practices "socialism" but doesn't force people are "capitalist"

[AnCap Dave]

So a group that practices "socialism" but doesn't force people are "capitalist"

So long as the exchange is voluntary, then yes. Socialism as an economic philosophy requires force, however should a bunch of people decide to voluntarily get together and share goods among each other, that's still perfectly in line with capitalism, because there is still a means of exchange that is voluntary. Once force is involved, it no longer becomes capitalism, and then that group becomes socialism.

[MrBogosity]

So a group that practices "socialism" but doesn't force people are "capitalist"

Exactly. Socialism - force = capitalism. Communism - force = capitalism. People can set up their little socialist or communist systems in a capitalist system all they want, as long as all participants are willing volunteers. Of course, they'd end up having to compete with all the capitalists out there...

[AnCap Dave]

Exactly. Socialism - force = capitalism. Communism - force = capitalism. People can set up their little socialist or communist systems in a capitalist system all they want, as long as all participants are willing volunteers. Of course, they'd end up having to compete with all the capitalists out there...

This. As long as they are voluntary, they're perfectly fine. Whether or not they would actually succeed is another question entirely.

[AnCap Dave]

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Did I just hear Thunderf00t say that youtube channels and twitter accounts aren't private property? Yep, I did hear him say that.

That's the only thing I heard that I would consider fail. Haven't watched the whole video, but that bit alone was worth a mention here. There could be more fail though for all I know, considering who it is.

[MrBogosity]

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Did I just hear Thunderf00t say that youtube channels and twitter accounts aren't private property? Yep, I did hear him say that.

That's the only thing I heard that I would consider fail. Haven't watched the whole video, but that bit alone was worth a mention here. There could be more fail though for all I know, considering who it is.

Sounded to me like he had a point with most of this. And even with the comment/ratings thing, aside from the fail that they aren't private property, he does have a point about the kind of person who would disable them as not being someone involved in the marketplace of ideas. We've seen that a lot, with woos like creationists as well as statists who are too afraid of hearing evidence that they're wrong.

[MrBogosity]

Sounded to me like he had a point with most of this. And even with the comment/ratings thing, aside from the fail that they aren't private property, he does have a point about the kind of person who would disable them as not being someone involved in the marketplace of ideas. We've seen that a lot, with woos like creationists as well as statists who are too afraid of hearing evidence that they're wrong.

A much better expression of the same sentiment: http://skepticink.com/skepticallyleft/2013/01/06/freeze-peach-formerly-known-as-free-speech/

[R.E.H.W.R.]

I'm probably wrong, but there has to be something wrong with this guy's numbers.

Gun deaths by homicide, suicide or accident peaked at 37,666 in 1993 before declining to a low of 28,393 in 2000, the data show. Since then the total has risen to 31,328 in 2010, an increase of 2,935, or eight more victims a day. 323? get real

323 refers to rifles

[AnCap Dave]

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[Ibrahim90]

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at this point, I'm not sure who I should be rooting for: the conspiritard madman who wants gun rights, or the British dude whose own country doesn't want him back?

[MrBogosity]

at this point, I'm not sure who I should be rooting for: the conspiritard madman who wants gun rights, or the British dude whose own country doesn't want him back?

Bringing the two of them in close proximity threatens to form a singularity of astounding fail resulting in a thermobogosear explosion.

[AnCap Dave]

And now we bring in flat out lying about gun control laws:
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[Lord T Hawkeye]

Talk about cheap shots Morgan!  Maybe we should interview Fred Phelps as the official speaker of religion.  Let's see how you'd like that!