Fail Quotes

[Ibrahim90]

But then they say, that gun control is the best band-aid type solution to the problem for now, and that it's simply better to have people no access to guns, so that at least people with knifes can't kill as many people.

which is funny, because there have been cases where people have been killed in greater numbers, using just such a weapon (knives). the greatest mass killing of students wasn't even by a hand held weapon: it instead involved an explosive. which had been used as a chemical for farming for almost a decade by then (I refer to the Bath School tragedy from 1927)

@ rehwr: you need to point out that stop-gap measures don't work: OK, so even if we accept this idiots argument that knives are less likely to kill (when really it just means it's less convenient, and more skill dependent), there are still way better methods, which cannot within reason be banned: you can't ban petrol, and you can't ban manure (or pesticide)....


stop gap solutions like the one you quote just show how short sighted these people are: they only think in the short term, and they only obsess over firearms, when really, they need to focus on the murders and what motivated them. There is no intermediate step--no realistic one, as removing means of defense may actually encourage more of these deranged shootings (since you know, criminals don't, by definition, respect the law). also, point out to them while explaining this that almost all the shootings occur in no gun zones, and not in areas where people can safely be assumed as carrying firearms (like, you know, gunshows, farms, hunting grounds, military barracks (Military hospitals are no gun zones), convenience stores (many robberies and mass shooting attempts floundered there). Adding more no gun zones, or making the whole country a no gun zone, is a recipe for disaster, when you consider the prevalence of firearms in North America as a whole, and the fact that, again, criminals don't give a fuck about the law.

[R.E.H.W.R.]

Pipebombs require at least rudimentary chemistry knowledge,

Its called Google.

[VectorM]

Adding more no gun zones, or making the whole country a no gun zone, is a recipe for disaster, when you consider the prevalence of firearms in North America as a whole, and the fact that, again, criminals don't give a fuck about the law.

Then they argue that we should just do whateverthehell to stop so called "mentally ill" people for being able to get guns and this is another fundamental problem with the anti-gun types: they fail to realize, that most of these people are simply not mentally ill.

One of them in that same thread brought up this:

A thought experiment: you start giving a pistol to every violent schizophrenic patient who enters a psychiatrist's office. They start murdering people. Your response seems to be "Well, we need to tackle the schizophrenia - anything else wouldn't work." No - we need to stop giving them pistols. Incidentally, there's not a lot to stop a mentally ill individual purchasing a gun in the US.

A Schizophrenic would shoot himself twice before shooting anyone else, and when we talk about mass shootings, then they are almost completely incapable of doing anything like that. Most mass shootings are planed in advance, something that a schizophrenic is almost incapable of doing, same with someone with, say, clinical depression. I've been clinically depressed and I could barely get up from my bed and clean myself, or even step out of the house. I person like that is way more likely to jump from someone's rooftop, craw back up and jump again, than he is to do anything even slightly resembling what happened a couple of days ago.

[Ibrahim90]

Then they argue that we should just do whateverthehell to stop so called "mentally ill" people for being able to get guns and this is another fundamental problem with the anti-gun types: they fail to realize, that most of these people are simply not mentally ill.

So in other words, they want to duck their head in the sand (or cram it up their asses), and blame it all on mental illness? that's it? no attempt at actually looking into why these people really did this? not even a little bit?

If that's the case, I think the problem with these people isn't that a failure of realization: it's an inability, or unwillingness, to confront the facts, & take action accordingly. I am starting to think that they want to live an a fantasy la-la hippie land.

[VectorM]

So in other words, they want to duck their head in the sand (or cram it up their asses), and blame it all on mental illness? that's it? no attempt at actually looking into why these people really did this? not even a little bit?

As I said, they say that regulating guns is the best band aid solution for now and that's kinda it. Haven't seen any real attempt at addressing the core problem itself. The link to the thread itself is there if you want to read the rest.

[R.E.H.W.R.]

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My god, Piers Morgan is a dick.

[VectorM]

Riiiight, so we can't have teachers with guns, but he seems ok with the police having guns?

[VectorM]

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The video is win, the commens are just UGH!$&

[tnu]

OK This is just too stupid for words.

When I said this in a gun debate

"I am sorry but I frankly dont trust the idea of giving one group who already has a monopoly on initiation force with impunity another monopoly that would put them at such an advantage over the citizenry."

He said this.

So you hate capitalism?
This is capitalism exactly.

[AnCap Dave]

RTAmerica just uploaded this. Their person who promotes gun control fails on massive levels and their show fails on massive levels for showing clear bias. The reporter interrupts the pro-gun guy and claims his theory "falls flat" because she claims that Fort Hood was a military base and they had guns. As he replies to correct her, she tells him to let her finish. They also picked one of the worst representatives for pro-2nd Amendment. They basically just took some random dude who sits in a room with a giant "DON'T TREAD ON ME" flag who shows off his assault rifle while the other guy is talking.

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[tnu]

I feel so sorry for you D. I've noticed that you tend to post a large number of the failquotes and I jsut don't know what to make of thatr.

[AnCap Dave]

I feel so sorry for you D. I've noticed that you tend to post a large number of the failquotes and I jsut don't know what to make of thatr.

Don't feel too bad. Someone has to do it.

[R.E.H.W.R.]

Riiiight, so we can't have teachers with guns, but he seems ok with the police having guns?

What kind of asshole calls someone an idiot during an interview?

[tnu]

Just wanna say that Bush and Obama are not comparable in terms of being guilty of war crimes.

Yeah drones are bad, but that's most of Obama's wrongdoing.

George Bush has a very long list indeed.

I really wish that was made up.

[AnCap Dave]

The conspiratards are out in full force!

December 18, 2012

The parents of the children that were allegedly killed in America's second deadliest mass shooting NEVER GOT TO SEE THEIR DEAD CHILDREN!? Why?

Because authorities claimed they wanted to spare them further agony. The parents were only allowed to identify their children from photographs.

PARENTS DENIED ACCESS

If one of your children was shot, would you want to identify them from a photograph that could have been "photoshopped" A photo is NOT proof! Are the children really dead?

The fact is - the parents were never allowed to see and identify their own children. They were forced to take the word of the so called "authorities" that their children were dead.