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Quote from: D on October 04, 2012, 06:27:02 PM
Sounds like a "No True Scotsman" fallacy to me. That or they're just completely delusional to the fact that socialism requires force/violence/aggression in order for it to even be possible. If there were no acts of force in a socialist society, what would stop me from simply refusing to give up the fruits of my labor to them or insist that I own my property? What would force me to pay for other people's healthcare? The simple fact is, only through violence can the concept of socialism be achieved, and that is exactly what is wrong with socialism.

And the response was.
"Where do you get this notion that socialism dictates that an individual be forced to share?"
"The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be."
Lao Tzu

Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on October 04, 2012, 07:00:38 PM
And the response was.
"Where do you get this notion that socialism dictates that an individual be forced to share?"

outside Anarcho-Cynicism (even then), I get it reading nearly every piece of literature on the subject...most notably from that one book, I forget it's name--it's from 1848.
Meh

Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on October 04, 2012, 07:00:38 PM
And the response was.
"Where do you get this notion that socialism dictates that an individual be forced to share?"

Then what stops me from simply not giving you my stuff? They can ask me all they want, but unless they pull out guns or threaten me, then there is no way they can stop me from simply refusing to take part.

Quote from: D on October 04, 2012, 07:14:32 PM
Then what stops me from simply not giving you my stuff? They can ask me all they want, but unless they pull out guns or threaten me, then there is no way they can stop me from simply refusing to take part.

Through, talking to the guy more, 1. He's one of those socialist anarchist types 2. I'm not gonna convince they guy of any thing. 
"The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be."
Lao Tzu

Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on October 04, 2012, 08:20:13 PM
Through, talking to the guy more, 1. He's one of those socialist anarchist types 2. I'm not gonna convince they guy of any thing.

Socialist anarchist is an oxymoron. It simply isn't possible to have socialism without government and without the use of force to maintain it. This fact alone means his arguments are invalid.

Quote from: D on October 04, 2012, 08:32:46 PM
Socialist anarchist is an oxymoron. It simply isn't possible to have socialism without government and without the use of force to maintain it. This fact alone means his arguments are invalid.

Ya, but, you can't convince some people.
"The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be."
Lao Tzu

Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on October 04, 2012, 09:16:16 PM
Ya, but, you can't convince some people.

Doesn't change the fact that they're wrong. At that point you may as well just move on.

Elizabeth Esty is a Democrat candidate running for Congress here in Connecticut. Her opponent decided to release a clip of Esty as response to the attack ads she has been making against him. The clip he uses contains one line of complete and utter fail.



The bit in question starts at 2:07
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>no wars

No, just sanctions on Iraq that killed several thousand children as well as constant bombing of the region.

>Great economy

A "surplus" that was only created by taking money out of the social security fund to spend on his other ambitions, such as said bombing of Iraq and the Balkans region.

Quote from: D on October 06, 2012, 12:21:23 PM


>no wars

No, just sanctions on Iraq that killed several thousand children as well as constant bombing of the region.

>Great economy

A "surplus" that was only created by taking money out of the social security fund to spend on his other ambitions, such as said bombing of Iraq and the Balkans region.

And his mistresses sucked... in one more than one way. I mean Kenedy had Marilyn Monroe for christ's sake(Japanese Rice Wine).

Anyone else sick of the Lesser of Two Evils argument?

Really starting to grate on my nerves!
"The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be."
Lao Tzu

You have no idea. I was passing Gary Johnson stuff out at a gun show a few weeks ago and one guy almost punched me because "ROMNEY ISN'T PERFECT BUT JOHNSON HAS TO STAND DOWN AT THAT COMMUNIST MUSLIM WILL STAY IN OFFICE"!!! I just replied "A communist Mormon is just as bad"

Quote from: FSBlueApocalypse on October 07, 2012, 01:50:15 PM
You have no idea. I was passing Gary Johnson stuff out at a gun show a few weeks ago and one guy almost punched me because "ROMNEY ISN'T PERFECT BUT JOHNSON HAS TO STAND DOWN AT THAT COMMUNIST MUSLIM WILL STAY IN OFFICE"!!! I just replied "A communist Mormon is just as bad"

HA!
"The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be."
Lao Tzu

This comes from a buddy of mine on Facebook after I posted this article.
Quote"Hey mommy! Can I have a crack pipe and have sex with 12 boys from school, too?" "Go ahead, honey." It might be a child getting what they want from their parent, but it also sets an ever lowering standard for humanity. parenting like this is why we have Honey Boo Boo. And I find that worlds more disgusting than an arrest over it. I don't care thing one about the politics of who thinks she owns her body or whatever. Arrest or not, political debate or not, I would have just been proud of anyone who contacted child services or contacted the authorities in general over something like this, period.

You know, because tattoos are the equivalent to being a junkie and a whore.

This post was a response to a video I posted in a thread about Mormonism. It's full of the usual excuses, such as the "temper of the times" argument as well as the usual OMG MISINTERPRETATION nonsense.

Video in question:
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Full post in question:
QuoteOk, now, I don't want to rant, and if it seems like it, I apologize in advance sorry :/

But this happens alot within my religion, where sometimes the readings within the Book of Mormon gets misinterpreted. Alot. One ting that is taught by many within our religion is the fact that, in the BoM, times were completely different, in text, language, wordings and everything under that category. Words weren't taken into the literal sense.

I hear this guy, but at the same time, he ain't revealing the whole entire truth about it. As interpreted within the BoM, this whole "Black Skin Curse" goes back to the entire Kane and Abel incident. When Kane killed his brother, the "curse of black skin" was put upon him. Not as an entire curse, but as a reminder to his sinful actions, and his whole race would be punished for it.

Back in those times, and.... I guess these times too, blackness (not taken into consideration within skin color), but with dirt, is what the black skin was considered, because Kane's purity was taken away from him. That is what was meant from the use of "Cursed Black Skin". Also, these times were also the time of Moses' Law. A law taken into great consideration of everything, where rules and allocations and shit was completely different to what we perceive now as punishment. Alot of rules were changed within our time now.

Now, concerning the "Nephites" and "Lamanites". Yes, the dude is right about the story, but once again, not showing the entire truth of it. Nephites were, as he put it, "Righteous". Meaning they did everything they were told by the Lord. Lamanite were bad, like Kane. Murdering, plundering, raping etc. And their purity of themselves was taken away when they did this stuff, as I explained before. BUT, after a while, things began to change the way in which this worked.

Lamanites started to ask for forgiveness, repent, and they eventually became more good than Nephites. And Nephites were starting to rape, murder etc. Everything was turned, and "God" was disappointed in how the Nephites became bad, but also very proud and pleased that the Lamanites became good. Which lead to the whole "Nephite Genocide" leaving only 3 left.

There's a whole lot mroe to the sotry that this guy is leaving out, making it look like Mormon's are racist. Ok, now going on to the whole Black people in our time thing.

Once you turn a certain age (12) you get a gift known as the Holy Preisthood. This gift lets you do more service within the church, letting you bless the sick, and do all sorts of other stuff that you originally couldn't do. Black weren't allowed this bakc in the 1900's. BUT this was everywhere already. NO ONE in the 1900's considered blacks a part of the human race. Racism was at it's finest back then. The reason why Mormons didn't allow blacks as much opportunities within that time, was because there is one rules that we all keep and follow within our religion. We must obey and follow to the rules of the land. Bakc in those times, If the Mormons had given equal opportunities to the blacks as much as the whites, Mormon's would've been shunned and discriminated, and evetually drowned out because of all the hate. It had nothing to do with the fact that we didn't like blacks, but because we couldn't do it in the first place.

Also, did that guy say he was Mormon for 27 years or something? hehe...

There is alot of information that we could go over in this, but there would be too much explaining to do. I'll wait for your reply on this, D.