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"Most of this guys videos are misleading and ridiculous. But he makes a great point in this one."

Some guy who says his name is Zachary Taylor and then he posts a BillBurns2 video.

http://kateordie.tumblr.com/post/24988635952/sometimes-i-have-the-time-and-patience-to-get-from

She means well but this rant is chock full of misinformation and she's doing her cause a disservice by spreading it.

For one thing, 1 out of 4 women have been raped?  Anyone know what percent of the population are rapists cause I'll bet you money there are not enough rapists in the world to possibly produce those kinds of numbers.

For another, advising women not to venture alone in dangerous places is "rape culture"?  So if I tell someone who got hacked that he should get a security program and stop opening e-mails from strangers, is that "hacker culture"?  Am I defending criminals when I tell people how to protect themselves from them?  What kind of sense does that make?


And I've said it before, anyone who claims it's a man's world has never been through divorce court.  I'll tell you that for a fact.
I recently heard that the word heretic is derived from the greek work heriticos which means "able to choose"
The more you know...

July 12, 2012, 06:28:11 PM #1952 Last Edit: July 12, 2012, 06:31:05 PM by MrBogosity
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on July 12, 2012, 06:03:52 PMFor one thing, 1 out of 4 women have been raped?  Anyone know what percent of the population are rapists cause I'll bet you money there are not enough rapists in the world to possibly produce those kinds of numbers.

Assuming we're talking about the US, and not including statutory rape, the rate is 65 in 100,000. Of course, that may not be 65 individual people (you'd have one person committing multiple rapes in a year), but that doesn't actually matter. There are 120 million adult female women in the US. So applying that rape rate to the adult female population you get 78,000 women raped each year (assuming each one is raped only once), and so it would take those rapists over 300 years to rape one-fourth of the adult women in the country!

Now of course, this is just reported rapes, but there'd have to be a LOT of unreported rapes to make this the case!

QuoteFor another, advising women not to venture alone in dangerous places is "rape culture"?  So if I tell someone who got hacked that he should get a security program and stop opening e-mails from strangers, is that "hacker culture"?  Am I defending criminals when I tell people how to protect themselves from them?  What kind of sense does that make?

I've never understood this, either. It's the equivalent of saying "Don't walk down that street at night." And it's NOT the same thing as saying "Well she shouldn't have worn that short skirt."

From this article.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/07/13/13-reasons-why-this-is-the-worst-congress-ever/

Reason #1 of why this is the worst Congress ever. "1. They're not passing laws."

That's actually an argument for them being better than the previous congress and why I would prefer that the President and the Congress be different parties if Johnson doesn't win.

Quote from: Goaticus on July 13, 2012, 02:51:33 PM
From this article.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/07/13/13-reasons-why-this-is-the-worst-congress-ever/

Reason #1 of why this is the worst Congress ever. "1. They're not passing laws."

That's actually an argument for them being better than the previous congress and why I would prefer that the President and the Congress be different parties if Johnson doesn't win.

yeah, I never got that: I keep hearing from people about the need to break the deadlock--even though doing so usually (well, 99.9% of the cases) leads to things getting worse.
Meh

Quote from: Ibrahim90 on July 13, 2012, 03:06:35 PM
yeah, I never got that: I keep hearing from people about the need to break the deadlock--even though doing so usually (well, 99.9% of the cases) leads to things getting worse.

Exactly and that was why the Bush Presidency was so much worse than the Clinton Presidency. Clinton wanted to do many of the things Bush did, but he was cock blocked for lack of a better term by Congress and to some extent Greenspan. Bush with nearly the same Congress and Fed Chairman was given carte blanche because they were on the same team.

Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on July 12, 2012, 06:03:52 PM
For one thing, 1 out of 4 women have been raped?  Anyone know what percent of the population are rapists cause I'll bet you money there are not enough rapists in the world to possibly produce those kinds of numbers.

These numbers come from making more than one hidden fallacious argument.

To begin with, 'researchers' looking to make the statistics look as bad as possible do surveys to find out how many women are being 'sexually assaulted'.  Of course, they don't ask the women if they've been sexually assaulted, they ask them a long series of questions about whether any of a laundry list of things has ever happened to them.  If they answer yes to any of them, they get counted as having been sexually assaulted, even if the woman herself does not consider themselves to have been sexually assaulted.  (They will even conflate things that they explicitly claim elsewhere are not sexual with sexual assault.  For instance, there is a set of institutional Feminists who claim that breasts are not sexual, but that doesn't stop them from claiming that an accidental touch to the breasts is sexual assault.)

Then (and quite often someone else does this), the entire category of 'sexual assault' (already wildly exaggerated) will be conflated with rape, a very specific subset of sexual assault.

You may notice a tremendous similarity to how statistics on gun usage are intentionally distorted by biased researches trying to make gun owners look like criminals.

Quote from: evensgrey on July 14, 2012, 03:30:50 AM
These numbers come from making more than one hidden fallacious argument.

To begin with, 'researchers' looking to make the statistics look as bad as possible do surveys to find out how many women are being 'sexually assaulted'.  Of course, they don't ask the women if they've been sexually assaulted, they ask them a long series of questions about whether any of a laundry list of things has ever happened to them.  If they answer yes to any of them, they get counted as having been sexually assaulted, even if the woman herself does not consider themselves to have been sexually assaulted.  (They will even conflate things that they explicitly claim elsewhere are not sexual with sexual assault.  For instance, there is a set of institutional Feminists who claim that breasts are not sexual, but that doesn't stop them from claiming that an accidental touch to the breasts is sexual assault.)

Then (and quite often someone else does this), the entire category of 'sexual assault' (already wildly exaggerated) will be conflated with rape, a very specific subset of sexual assault.

You may notice a tremendous similarity to how statistics on gun usage are intentionally distorted by biased researches trying to make gun owners look like criminals.


"When someone is walking down the street and avoiding stepping on cracks in the sidewalk, what is the one thing you can be sure of?
He knows the cracks are there." - Phil Hellenes
I recently heard that the word heretic is derived from the greek work heriticos which means "able to choose"
The more you know...


Ever want to hear what Connecticut citizens had to say about the Olympic uniforms being made in China?

Yeah, well neither did I.

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Yes, the "Voice of the People" segment is always bad. I could post one every day for fail quotes.

Yes, because jingoism and divisiveness among different nationalities is what the Olympics are all about...

Quote from: MrBogosity on July 17, 2012, 06:37:10 PM
Yes, because jingoism and divisiveness among different nationalities is what the Olympics are all about...

Trust me when I say that the "Voice of the People" segment is the worst segment on television.

Hell, I have another one for Fail Quotes:
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"The worst sin towards our fellow creatures is not to hate them, but to be indifferent to them: that's the essence of inhumanity" -George Bernard Shaw

From the description section of this video:

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Sorry, but negative action absent prior voluntary explicit agreement cannot be immoral/sin/crime/bad. UPB ftw.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

Quote from: MrBogosity on July 17, 2012, 04:56:34 PM
Everything said by jimmyrtle in these videos:

http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=Ubmjc83yAtI
http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=V7xyfCZwKqQ

I had to chime in on his assertion that giving out loans adds more money to the economy.

"Lending money adds more to the economy?

Yes, because we all know banks giving out loans willy nilly just made the whole country filthy rich amirite?"
I recently heard that the word heretic is derived from the greek work heriticos which means "able to choose"
The more you know...

Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on July 18, 2012, 07:57:44 AM
I had to chime in on his assertion that giving out loans adds more money to the economy.

"Lending money adds more to the economy?

Yes, because we all know banks giving out loans willy nilly just made the whole country filthy rich amirite?"

As did I:

"'Like I said earlier, under full reserve, there is no lending.'

And you're wrong. Shane pointed out that there is lending, only using time deposits. Read his posts next time before running your mouth."
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537