Fail Quotes

[Travis Retriever]

"a = not has been addressed often and I posted my video on that topic as a reply here. Etymology is not how we define words and any natural language loses most of it's meanings if it were.

The problem with the logical operator not didn't come until 1905, well after the Greeks founded their language. Logic has come a long way since then."--gklr

OK, basically he's saying that because a = not is Etymology, which isn't how words are always defined, therefore it a != not.
Even though he himself told me that, "Well words can have multiple meanings" and doesn't tell us how:
1. why his prefix of "non" gets special treatment and
2. why our version of atheism can't be one of those meanings

Yeah...
*facepalms*
How does this guy manage to tie his shoes in the morning.
I look at the comment section of that video by FFreethinker and he's been spamming it with his pseudo-intellectual bullshit for months.
Man, where's Matt Dilahunty when you need him?
Matt would tear this guy a new one...

[Travis Retriever]

"Rocks and numbers are not able to have beliefs yes, and that is why they both are without belief that god exists.
all you have done is state why they lack belief in a god, yet they remain nonatheists.
If you do not believe there is no god, you are not an atheist." --gklr

Circular reasoning + nonsequitor.

Funny how he's so smug about us showing why it's a this or that fallacy.
Yet the people who actually know what they are don't ask this of me...
As I said before, either he's lying about knowing what the fallacies are, or about not having committed them.

Also, I like how he beats the vagueness of language to death with words like "exists" which he seems to redefine with almost every post.

@Virgil0211: Though I stopped replying to his stupid ass posts, he's still giving many others in that video (the one by FFreethinker) trouble.
Does that still make your offer for help from other friends of yours, acceptable? 

@FlowCell:  If you want to know why I'm not too keen on philosophy, take a look at the comments left by gklr on this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt1wDNRkllQ by Ffreethinker to see why; because Any wordsmithing asshole with a pocket-dictionary and way too much spare time can take advantage of the vagueness of language and use it to support any proposition--no matter how unfounded or outright bogus--they want...

Gotta love word-smithing assholes like gklr and MasterGhostKnight who will say anything, botch up any word, equivocate any word, bastardize any fallacy, etc just to support their own dogma...
As Virgil0211 said, I seriously wonder if both of these two have formal language/thought disorders...
I'm not even kidding.

[LuminousMonkey]

He used the argument saying the current king of France is neither an theist or an atheist, because there is no such thing that exists.

He seems think that if someone argues that the word atheist is someone that lacks a belief in god or gods, then it is incorrect, because rocks and people that don't exist clearly aren't atheist.

Talk about moving something completely out of context, I was going to comment and say the next time he talks to rocks, or non-existent people he should let me know.  But I've decided that he's just a waste of my time.

Quite frankly, his discussion seems to be, if you will excuse me, just a bunch intellectual masturbation.  He's talking about set logic, yet seems to miss that it's boolean logic.  If something is not true, then it is false.

Talking about the belief of a rock is out of context in the discussion, and is meaningless.

[Lord T Hawkeye]

http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=aRzOqXL-5I0&fromurl=/watch%3Fv%3DaRzOqXL-5I0

Hoo boy, of all the thick skulls I have tried to crack, this is the one of the thickest by far.

According to him, UHC is not forced, there is nothing wrong with it and there's no way Mutual Aid societies could ever work even though they kinda sorta did.

Oh yeah, and when I ask him questions, he claims he already answered them.  -_-

[Travis Retriever]

http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=aRzOqXL-5I0&fromurl=/watch%3Fv%3DaRzOqXL-5I0

Hoo boy, of all the thick skulls I have tried to crack, this is the one of the thickest by far.

According to him, UHC is not forced, there is nothing wrong with it and there's no way Mutual Aid societies could ever work even though they kinda sorta did.

Oh yeah, and when I ask him questions, he claims he already answered them.  -_-

billburns2?

[Lord T Hawkeye]

Indeed, most of the others were at least willing to answer questions and defend their positions.  He just calls everything wrong and breaks for lunch, putting no effort into the position he claims to hold so dear.

[Travis Retriever]

As Shane would probably say to him:  "It must be so nice to just assert that your opponent is wrong without out having to go through the process of actually rebutting them..."

[Lord T Hawkeye]

Nope. This is not how you advance freedom. 1 star for anyone who leans on moral arguments. They don't explain anything, and they won't convince anyone because morality is just made up. - Fringeelements (shockingly enough)

Morality is made up?  Psh...so if I were to steal his wallet at gun point, he would react by saying "Hmm...that person acts in a way quite differently than I would.  How interesting"?

No!  Of course you wouldn't!  You'd think I had done something wrong or...immoral?

He's make some good vids but this nonsense about blurring morality to the point of it being meaningless is just absurd.

[Gumba Masta]

Of course many people's moral standarts are based on a highly personalized bias.
Like me who thinks that the fact that women arent tearing their clothes off and fling themself at me in hopes of being a part of a debauched orgy that the world has'nt seen since the days of Caligula is just wrong.

[Travis Retriever]

Nope. This is not how you advance freedom. 1 star for anyone who leans on moral arguments. They don't explain anything, and they won't convince anyone because morality is just made up. - Fringeelements (shockingly enough)

Morality is made up?  Psh...so if I were to steal his wallet at gun point, he would react by saying "Hmm...that person acts in a way quite differently than I would.  How interesting"?

No!  Of course you wouldn't!  You'd think I had done something wrong or...immoral?

He's make some good vids but this nonsense about blurring morality to the point of it being meaningless is just absurd.

Yeah, his videos on free will and morality are pathetic.
He really needs to stick to economics and anti-statism.

[Lord T Hawkeye]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt-qihwxk0I

Seems I ruffled some feathers with my story time vid about healthcare.  Why is it always the Brits who are first to go charging in blindly when you dare bad mouth the liberal holy grail?

[MrBogosity]

It seems like the ones who respond to mine didn't even bother to watch the video. I got the same crap about things like pre-existing conditions.

[Lord T Hawkeye]

"aaaaactually the goal of socialism is ultimately to not have a government at all. True socialism is far closer to libertarianism than statism."

I swear to Ghandi, he was dead serious here...  o.O

[Travis Retriever]

"aaaaactually the goal of socialism is ultimately to not have a government at all. True socialism is far closer to libertarianism than statism."

I swear to Ghandi, he was dead serious here...  o.O

From what I understand, he's right.
But what I don't always get is how they're supposed to get to having no government by making it as big as possible.
Do they really think the people in power of this supersized state are not going to give them any trouble giving up all that power?
Or that people aren't going to die from the adjustment?
Why not simply abolish the state to begin with?

[MrBogosity]

They're still not closer to libertarianism. Libertarianism is individualism; socialism is collectivism. It's hard to get any more diametrically opposed than that!