Fail Quotes

Started by Travis Retriever, October 17, 2009, 03:00:20 PM

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Regarding LPF chair's fight against Real ID, I'm in blue, he's in red

So the government requiring practically your whole life's story just to get a driver's license isn't a search by the government?

Being able to drive a car is not a requirement. So in the end getting a drivers license is voluntary, as is forgegoing a drivers license for a state ID.

In the end though, if you want to use certain services, both private and public, one requirement is to show ID. If you dont have the ID, there is nothing wrong with that, but just like any business, they dont have to help / sell you anything if you dont have it.

Secondly, when you get your DL / State ID, you are consenting to have personal information placed into a database (DMV/DOR/etc). As said before, you arent required ot have an ID or DL. Just dont expect businesses to make an exception.

And an unreasonable one at that?
Since its voluntary, its not unreasonable, and the courts have upheld that.
And what do you mean by the 4th amendment applies to government and not the individual?
A civilian who decides to walk into their neighbors house and look around for drugs / illegal items violated the law, specifically (if the homeowner is not home) Burglary in the 2nd (in my state) and if the homeowner is home its 1st degree.

If a police officer does the exact same thing, not only are we technically burglarizing the property, we are also violating his civil rights, specifically the 4th amendment. LEO either needs a warrant, consent or exigent circumstances.

Your neighbor who searched doesnt require a warrant since he is not acting under color of law.

This is why I said the guy does not understand how the 4th amendment applies to his case.



Quote from: D on September 08, 2011, 08:59:54 AM
JohN Bradshaw Layfield, former pro wrestler, now writes for Fox Business.

You want to talk about failure....wow.

Wait, so if we want to reform it, we shouldn't talk about what it currently is? How can you reform something if you don't know what it is?

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If showing ID is practically mandatory in this country, than how is it in any way voluntary. I have to show ID to get on a plane? Oh I could drive, so its voluntary. Oh wait, I still need to do that to get a driver's license. Oh wait, I could still walk from Florida to New York, so its voluntary.

What's that, I'm going to need a credit card and ID to try and get a hotel room? Oh I guess I could just sleep out in a ditch or something, but then I'll get busted for vagrancy.


Quote from: D on September 08, 2011, 04:18:18 PM
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Is it wrong that I liked his thoughts on Sonic the Hedgehog?  Not as profound, but like something interesting, and between "whoa, dude, we're so high right now" and a "hm...very interesting!"
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on September 08, 2011, 07:14:49 PM
Is it wrong that I liked his thoughts on Sonic the Hedgehog?  Not as profound, but like something interesting, and between "whoa, dude, we're so high right now" and a "hm...very interesting!"

Didn't watch his Sonic run, but he did this with the intention of us not wanting to play SMW ever again.

Quote from: D on September 08, 2011, 07:15:55 PM
Didn't watch his Sonic run, but he did this with the intention of us not wanting to play SMW ever again.
Whoa.  I haven't watched his SMW one, so I did not know that.  Honestly, I loved that game. :)
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

To reply to someone else who said that Ryan doesn't go together with comedy, he does have his moments.
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He and Morrakiu are at their best with their satire.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

Saw this on Facebook.

QuoteSTOP NEOCON's, STOP WAR, STOP BANKRUPTING OUR COUNTRY WITH PREEMPTIVE WARS, DON'T ALLOW THE MEDIA TO DETERMINE OUR ELECTIONS!!!!

That's not the fail. The fail comes from a response he got:
QuoteWhoa, whoa...hold on there, brother. I'm with you all the way up until you say "STOP WAR". We need to stop the LUCIFERIAN GLOBALIST BANKERS from getting RICH off of war.

Unfortunately, as long as human beings SUCK, we will need a military and a police department.

September 09, 2011, 01:35:55 PM #1194 Last Edit: September 09, 2011, 01:53:51 PM by D
This guy posted this on another forum where I posted the debate between the Keynesian and the Austrian economist. This may be the single most bogus thing I've ever read.

QuoteAs for Austrian economics, the creationism school of economic thought, I'll give it some credence when they back it up with empirical data rather than constantly posture with their philosophy. If Milton ****ing Friedman AND Paul Krugman both say it lacks any evidence to prove its position? I'm surprised that the Austrian school always supplants the neomonetarist these days in the media.

Quote from: D on September 09, 2011, 11:38:26 AM
Saw this on Facebook.

That's not the fail. The fail comes from a response he got:
QuoteWhoa, whoa...hold on there, brother. I'm with you all the way up until you say "STOP WAR". We need to stop the LUCIFERIAN GLOBALIST BANKERS from getting RICH off of war.

Unfortunately, as long as human beings SUCK, we will need a military and a police department.
Yeah, sounds like my conservative friend...Evidently, they both think that upon becoming members of government, they ascent beyond us mere mortals:  cult of the omnipotent state yet again.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

Quote from: D on September 09, 2011, 01:35:55 PM
This guy posted this on another forum where I posted the debate between the Keynesian and the Austrian economist. This may be the single most bogus thing I've ever read.
QuoteAs for Austrian economics, the creationism school of economic thought, I'll give it some credence when they back it up with empirical data rather than constantly posture with their philosophy. If Milton ****ing Friedman AND Paul Krugman both say it lacks any evidence to prove its position? I'm surprised that the Austrian school always supplants the neomonetarist these days in the media.
Because evidently, the plethora of empirical predictions that came true from the Austrian School don't mean a thing to him, yes?
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

From that same debate on another forum about Austrian vs. Keynesian economics:

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QuoteAustrian economics is like creationism? Really? Desty, that may be the single most blatantly wrong thing you have posted on this forum. I'm actually kind of disappointed.
Really? The comparison is quite apt. The Austrian School refuses to look at data, facts, or apply mathematics and econometrics. Murray fucking Rothbard says it's simply a priori form of thought. Then you have good ol' mises.org constantly putting up articles about how data collection and statistics are irrelevant. Lol nothanks.

QuoteOh and nice appeal to authority fallacy there. If Paul Krugman says it's wrong it totally MUST be right? Oh wait...
That's not an appeal to authority fallacy. Or are you seriously suggesting that Paul Krugman and Milton Friedman are not renown economist?

Interesting read for you: Why I'm not an Austrian Economist, by Bryan Caplan.

And for a daily dose of cool:
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I really don't get how Austrian economics is the "creationist school" when it's the Kensyians calling top down, centralized planning.  That sounds more to me like creationism.
I recently heard that the word heretic is derived from the greek work heriticos which means "able to choose"
The more you know...

"That's not an appeal to authority fallacy. Or are you seriously suggesting that Paul Krugman and Milton Friedman are not renown economist?"

Oh, that has GOT to be the biggest fail ever! That ranks up there with, "It's not nepotism--he's my brother!"

Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on September 10, 2011, 09:20:03 AM
I really don't get how Austrian economics is the "creationist school" when it's the Kensyians calling top down, centralized planning.  That sounds more to me like creationism.

Exactly--and they deny the effectiveness of bottom-up spontaneous processes, just like creationists deny the effectiveness of the bottom-up spontaneous process of evolution. Both of them INSIST that there must be a designer at the top of it all.