Unnamed(?) logical fallacies

[Altimadark]

One thing I keep running into over and over again. I guess we could call it the Mind-Reader Fallacy, or the Omnipotence Fallacy, except I think it should have a better name (those two kind of read to me as the opposite).

Anyway, you've caught someone in a lie, and they say, "You can't know I was lying! You can't read minds!" Or they try and backpedal and say, "You don't know what I REALLY meant! You can't read minds!" Despite the fact that there are a number of ways of deducing this without having to use psychic powers.

In short, it's a way of weaseling out of problems with your argument by asserting that the other person can't know those problems are there without having an impossible ability of some kind. The creationist "You weren't there when the universe was created so you can't know!" canard comes to mind.

Because I don't have the sense to know when to quit, I propose to call this the "Man Behind the Curtain" fallacy. As in, they don't want you to pay attention to it, even if it happens to be correct.

[Libertarianist]

Here's another one: argumentum ad servitus, or "appeal to slavery." This is when someone denounces a society, philosophy, policy, or economic theory by comparing it to slavery. Of course, if the person makes a legitimate comparison, it's not a fallacy; the fallacy comes from comparing something to slavery in order to make appeal to ridicule or poisoning the well fallacy. Since it covers these and several other fallacies as well, I think it should be considered one of its own.

It's kind of similar to Godwin's Law, so maybe the person who makes the comparison should be considered to have lost the argument.

To distinguish this from Godwin's law I would formalize this fallacy to mean "Equating voluntary servitude to slavery solely on the basis of compensation."
Example, "The wages walmart pays are barely enough to survive on, it's just like slavery!"

[Libertarianist]

Maybe this has already been posted, but I run into this quite frequently.
Maybe "Guilt be defense" or "The guilt of the public defender fallacy"
It occurs when someone accuses you of committing some action merely based on your defense of that action.
Examples:
"I don't think heroine should be illegal."
"That's probably because you shoot up all the time."

"Prostitution shouldn't be illegal."
"Why? So you can keep paying women to sleep with you?"

[Travis Retriever]

Maybe this has already been posted, but I run into this quite frequently.
Maybe "Guilt be defense" or "The guilt of the public defender fallacy"
It occurs when someone accuses you of committing some action merely based on your defense of that action.
Examples:
"I don't think heroine should be illegal."
"That's probably because you shoot up all the time."

"Prostitution shouldn't be illegal."
"Why? So you can keep paying women to sleep with you?"

Sounds like a variation of ad hominem fallacy.  Personally I think it's one that happens so often, it might as well have its own name.  Though whether it's added to the list at the start of the thread will be Shane's decision (since he made the post starting the thread).

[MrBogosity]

Sounds like a variation of ad hominem fallacy.  Personally I think it's one that happens so often, it might as well have its own name.  Though whether it's added to the list at the start of the thread will be Shane's decision (since he made the post starting the thread).

I think we discussed that at one point but couldn't come up with a good name.

[Travis Retriever]

I think we discussed that at one point but couldn't come up with a good name.

Closet guilt fallacy? *shrugs*

[Travis Retriever]

Okay, this is one that NEEDS to be pointed out:

When someone has a view that is not what the mainstream thinks and thinks it right by virtue of his view being in the minority.
You know, the people who say, "Well, they laughed at Galileo!" While forgetting even more people laughed at Bozo the Clown.

Until I see a better name, I'm calling this The Hipster Fallacy, as it seems to be the main justification for many things hipsters say/believe/do.

[MrBogosity]

Okay, this is one that NEEDS to be pointed out:

When someone has a view that is not what the mainstream thinks and thinks it right by virtue of his view being in the minority.
You know, the people who say, "Well, they laughed at Galileo!" While forgetting even more people laughed at Bozo the Clown.

Until I see a better name, I'm calling this The Hipster Fallacy, as it seems to be the main justification for many things hipsters say/believe/do.

That's already called the "Galileo Fallacy" or the "Galileo Gambit."

[Travis Retriever]

That's already called the "Galileo Fallacy" or the "Galileo Gambit."

Rats! Oh well...can I still call it the Hipster Fallacy?  I like that name. ^.^

[dallen68]

Rats! Oh well...can I still call it the Hipster Fallacy?  I like that name. ^.^

Wouldn't something called "the Hipster Fallacy" be kinda the opposite? I mean wouldn't that be someone who thinks their logic is right because it happens to be in style at the moment?

[Travis Retriever]

Wouldn't something called "the Hipster Fallacy" be kinda the opposite? I mean wouldn't that be someone who thinks their logic is right because it happens to be in style at the moment?

The logic/idea was that hipsters think unpopular = right/better/cooler.  Hence the name Hipster fallacy for being in the minority viewpoint.
"This was way better before it went mainstream..."/"I liked this BEFORE it was cool...."

[MrBogosity]

The logic/idea was that hipsters think unpopular = right/better/cooler.  Hence the name Hipster fallacy for being in the minority viewpoint.
"This was way better before it went mainstream..."/"I liked this BEFORE it was cool...."

That would seem more of an Argument from Antiquity.

[Travis Retriever]

That would seem more of an Argument from Antiquity.

http://www.cracked.com/article_18916_5-reasons-why-anticonformity-worse-than-conformity.html
"I'm going to illustrate this with a series of comics. You might be wondering why all the comics are about goths, and the answer is because they're easy to draw. I'm certainly not saying that goths are the worst anticonformists. That would be hipsters."
Not really, as they like to cling to things that aren't in the mainstream with no other reason other than they aren't mainstream, as I said.  Though, yeah, I suppose I could have picked better examples to illustrate that.

[dallen68]

http://www.cracked.com/article_18916_5-reasons-why-anticonformity-worse-than-conformity.html
"I'm going to illustrate this with a series of comics. You might be wondering why all the comics are about goths, and the answer is because they're easy to draw. I'm certainly not saying that goths are the worst anticonformists. That would be hipsters."
Not really, as they like to cling to things that aren't in the mainstream with no other reason other than they aren't mainstream, as I said.  Though, yeah, I suppose I could have picked better examples to illustrate that.

Am I the only one who likes things because I like things? Why do we always have to be trying to fit in, or trying to stand out, whatever?

Also, If Rick Moranis put his shrinking machine in Michael J Fox's car, and visited Noah, would he be able to get the animals on the boat?

[MrBogosity]

Am I the only one who likes things because I like things? Why do we always have to be trying to fit in, or trying to stand out, whatever?

I know. If you do things specifically to stand out or be a "nonconformist," then you're letting society dictate your likes and your actions just as much as the mindless conformists are.