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Excellent summary of why the Wage Gap is bogus:

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Yeah I posted this one in the thread I made the other day.

More win from DownsizeDC:



The letter I sent:

People have the right to choose what goes in their own bodies, and there is no moral justification in denying potentially-beneficial medicine to sick people.

HIV drugs were allowed to bypass most of the FDA approval process. Because of this, hundreds of thousands of people now live who would otherwise be dead. We need to take the same approach to all diseases.

UL has proven how the voluntary model works. Let's make the FDA work the same way.

Write Congress: https://downsizedc.org/etp/fda/

Sign the petition: https://www.change.org/p/us-senate-u-s-house-of-representatives-lamar-alexander-urge-congress-to-support-free-to-choose-medicine

"Destroying private property to make a point against the state is like giving yourself a black eye to show cancer who's boss." —That Guy T

April 28, 2015, 11:23:59 AM #4789 Last Edit: April 30, 2015, 02:21:18 PM by Travis Retriever
"I can't believe I have to actually say this to grown adults, but the situation in Baltimore has brought out the worst in everyone. On the one hand, you have people who are viewing these riots with a sense of blood lust and borderline racism in hoping that cops mow down everyone in the street and are suddenly innocent of all wrong doing, On the other hand you have people who are saying the rioters are completely without responsibility for their actions and that these riots are a good thing because violence is suddenly a viable solution to solving problems.
Let me make this clear. There are very few good guys in this situation. The good guys are the ones who are defending their homes and businesses. The good guys are the EMTs and firemen who, despite dealing with people doing everything in their power to stop them, are trying their damnedest to save as many lives and put out as many fires as humanly possible given the conditions. To those who believe that the actions of the police suddenly justify the riots, I say to you that the enemy of my enemy is not my friend. To those who want to see people get mowed down and crushed by tanks, stop. Your blood lust is not needed.
In an insane situation, it's important to hold on to your sanity as much as humanly possible."
—Dave

That and the bit above from That Guy T are the two most sensible things I've heard about this entire incident.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

"You do not wish to know anything! You wish only to speak. That which you know, you ignore, because it is inconvenient. That which you do not know, you invent." —Delenn
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

Quote from: Travis Retriever on April 28, 2015, 08:12:10 PM
"You do not wish to know anything! You wish only to speak. That which you know, you ignore, because it is inconvenient. That which you do not know, you invent." —Delenn

I love the bit where that one turdwrinkle says to her, "Of course we would expect YOU to say that..." and she shuts him up with just a look!



One more reason to NOT have politicians and governments, I'd say!
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

April 30, 2015, 02:09:18 PM #4793 Last Edit: April 30, 2015, 02:20:57 PM by Travis Retriever

^The above is a fail, but I needed to post it to give context to this post by Dave:

"'Dindu Nuffins'

Shit like this is why we can't have serious discussions on police brutality in this country. This is one part of the casual racism I've mentioned whenever it comes to situations like this.

Folks, there IS a very serious issue of police brutality in this country. Freddie Gray was a victim of police misconduct. Say what you will about his criminal background, which is mostly drug charges that didn't even end in convictions so he was essentially committing victimless crimes to begin with, he didn't deserve to die.

We have a system in place where police shoot first and ask questions later (if ever) and in a supposedly free society this is something everyone should find abhorrent, regardless of race or creed. Do I condemn the rioters and looters? Absolutely. However, remember that the rioting and looting happened for a reason. This wasn't just out of the blue rioting for the sake of rioting. In reality, this is a domestic case of blowback."
--Dave

And to the ex post facto victim blaming twats screaming from the rooftops that you can "just don't commit crimes and you won't get the shit kicked out of you." I say to you that your innocence is no protection.  Just ask the people who've been shot in drug raids when they went to the wrong house, to name but a few.  And even if it didn't how does that justify the beatings and even murders?  I thought a right to habeas corpus and innocent until proven guilty were a thing.  Last I checked, unless the force is necessary (the classic scenario being shooting someone trying to mug you when all else has failed), it's still an initiation of force and 100% indefensible, and no amount of their Stockholm Syndrome and mental gymnastics will ever change that.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

April 30, 2015, 02:15:57 PM #4794 Last Edit: May 01, 2015, 06:57:22 PM by Travis Retriever
"Notice how good the cops are at roughing people up when there is no danger and no real threat. But when the time comes when you actually hope that the police will defend person and property against invasion, times of genuine upheaval and fear, suddenly the police retire back and become strangely passive. It happens in every case of "civil unrest," and it's always astonishing. It's when property owners discover that they are on their own. The persistence of this behavior should make everyone rethink their presumptions that tax-funded, government-run policing is the right approach to security."--Jeffrey A. Tucker
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537


OK, a nice, light, NSFW video specifically relevant for today.

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Quote from: evensgrey on May 01, 2015, 08:47:12 AM
OK, a nice, light, NSFW video specifically relevant for today.

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Wow talk about barely legal >_<
Working every day to expose the terrible price we pay for government.

Win!

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Quote from: tnu on May 01, 2015, 07:52:28 AM

And the corollary to this to the police asking why they need much more and all that military stuff?  I mean, folks, I understand hippies and their pot are smelly and annoying but come on! /weak attempt to make a joke
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537