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[Travis Retriever]

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Best near the end, but worth the wait.  Fucking win.

[Travis Retriever]

"If 'God' had intended for men to have their foreskins removed he never would have given them to us in the first place."--Me, just now.

[MrBogosity]

"If 'God' had intended for men to have their foreskins removed he never would have given them to us in the first place."--Me, just now.

Never made any sense to me. Even less is creationists continuing the tradition: God made our bodies to be perfect, except for this bit at the end of the penis which needs to be snipped off.

[ArtemisVale]

Never made any sense to me. Even less is creationists continuing the tradition: God made our bodies to be perfect, except for this bit at the end of the penis which needs to be snipped off.

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[Travis Retriever]

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*standing ovation!*

[Travis Retriever]

The talk in this thread:  https://www.bogosity.tv/forum/index.php?topic=2373.0

Reminded me of a fucking classic XKCD:


(Mouseover text: "And the ten minutes striking up a conversation with that strange kid in homeroom sometimes matters more than every other part of high school combined." )

Also, shame on science classes for only ever making us do labs--even in my college of engineering--focusing on results when we already know the answer instead of having it be before and stressing method, statistics and analysis and having each person/group present it orally.  You know, like a REAL scientist would have to deal with.  I mean, I doubt scientists already know the answer and therefore get that type of tempted to fit data to the already known equations.  Hell, I bet you'd knock out a huge amount of cheating just from that change alone.

Which makes me wonder just *how* inefficient and indeed anti-efficient that our schools--colleges too!--really are.

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[MrBogosity]

Also, shame on science classes for only ever making us do labs--even in my college of engineering--focusing on results when we already know the answer instead of having it be before and stressing method, statistics and analysis and having each person/group present it orally.  You know, like a REAL scientist would have to deal with.  I mean, I doubt scientists already know the answer and therefore get that type of tempted to fit data to the already known equations.  Hell, I bet you'd knock out a huge amount of cheating just from that change alone.

Yeah. "Now here's what we're going to prove..." And they wonder why people are so screwed up when it comes to science literacy!

[dallen68]

Also, shame on science classes for only ever making us do labs--even in my college of engineering--focusing on results when we already know the answer instead of having it be before and stressing method, statistics and analysis and having each person/group present it orally.  You know, like a REAL scientist would have to deal with.  I mean, I doubt scientists already know the answer and therefore get that type of tempted to fit data to the already known equations.  Hell, I bet you'd knock out a huge amount of cheating just from that change alone.

I think they do it the way they do it so the students aren't held up (more than they already are) to public ridicule when they do it wrong. I mean, it's one thing to get it wrong on a paper, it's totally different to get it wrong while presenting your project to the class. Oh, that and the fact most teachers don't know how to do it either, so the only way of grading it is if everyone gets the prescribed answer - which is sometimes incorrect if you actually do the experiment as described.

Of course, they could adopt something along the lines of:

Correct methodology/correct conclusion=full points
Correct methodology/incorrect conclusion=half points
Incorrect methodology/correct conclusion=expulsion - well, okay, no points for that project.
Correct methodology/correct conclusion that doesn't match the answer key (and you can consistently repeat it)=double points.

[MrBogosity]

I think they do it the way they do it so the students aren't held up (more than they already are) to public ridicule when they do it wrong.

But that should be part of ANY science course: why it's okay--and even great--to be wrong!

[Travis Retriever]

The top comment on this cracked.com article:  http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-life-actually-does-get-better/


"When I was a kid, the adult figures in my life would periodically tell me just how much harder I'd have it as an adult. I have to be responsible. I have to work full time (with no summer or winter vacation!). I have to drive. I have to shop. I have to pay rent and bills. I have to be mature and control myself. Oh, and because I gave up the piano, I won't have anything fun to do ever again.

Work? You mean spend 8 hours a day, 5 days a week in a climate-controlled building and perform various tasks I'm well qualified for, with the occasional emergency or rush assignment? No problem. Granted, there are a *few* stressful moments, but not every day's like that. And no, there aren't any preset summer or winter vacations...I can schedule them WHENEVER I WANT (with management approval, of course).

Driving? I'll admit that traffic has gotten pretty horrendous lately, but that's still a huge step up from not having a car at all and never being able to go where I want.

Shopping? Go in, grab what I need, pay for it with the money I make from my job, exit, go home and put it away. No problem. And with online shopping, I don't even have that much.

Rent and bills? Write a check and give it to someone. Simplicity itself. Unless, of course, it's one of the many institutions that has automatic bill payments, where I spend three minutes with the computer and then don't have to do *anything* afterward. (And yes, I realize that not having enough to pay the rent or bills is a very real problem for a lot of adults...I deal with them regularly...but I'm not going to debate it here.)

Maturity? Self-control? Hell, I'm a natural. If I lost it in the past, it was either because 1. I was a kid, or 2. I was surrounded by irritating ignorant jerks who'd drive *anyone* nuts, I just was a little more expressive about it. I've never been a troublemaker. I've never stirred up crap for no reason.

You know what was really, really hard? Being teased, mocked, made fun of, and victimized. Being systematically ignored and marginalized by *every single adult figure* in my life, saying that I was full of it and I should just "ignore it" (because we all know how many problems that solves, right?). Being forced to do endless ridiculous, embarrassing skits, dragged from place to place like a dog on a leash, thrown into disgusting, corrupt institutions that ceased to have any positive value (hello Boy Scouts!), enduring the maelstrom of our psychotic sports culture, one horrible vacation after another, one miserable, neverending wedding reception after another, one miserable, neverending dinner service after another, one wild party after another, one soul-draining piano lesson after another, at every turned forced to smile, forced to endure the pain, forced to go to a place designed to make me miserable, FORCED, FORCED, FORCED. And all the while surrounded by surly, ill-mannered, stupid, ignorant, blind wretches who couldn't possibly give less of a damn about my well-being.

Good riddance to all that. Rent? A small price to pay for *not being treated like a piece of crap every goddam day*.

As for entertainment...this is the Internet, just DOWNLOAD your damn piano music like a normal person! :-D "--hawaiidkw

How true is that?  I mean, how much better would lives in general be without all the dishonesty and other crap in early childhood relationships?  The being treated like cattle in public schools, feeling like a burden instead of loved by parents, and being allowed to learn *real* responsibility from the start and mature into an adult in a more honest and natural way?  Hell, Stef touched on this in his first book on the Tyranny of Illusion.  Very good read, imho.

Really, that article is just one more reason to be a libertarian imho.  I believe what both John and the comment's OP said.  The difference between us is I don't stop there.  I apply it to ALL social institutions, not the least of which is government and religion.  That's how you know you're dealing with a state cultist:  Why does government get a free pass despite the beautiful posts against it John and the comment's OP just made?

[Travis Retriever]

http://www.cracked.com/photoplasty_640_22-insane-laws-you-wont-believe-exist-in-modern-world/?view=article
Alternate title: 22 government failures.

[Travis Retriever]

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I never understood the people saying, "UUUUHHHH MEN ARE JUST LAZY, STONER FRATBOY POS'S!"  Folks, if that were true, this wouldn't be a recent development.  I mean, come on!

[ArtemisVale]

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2014/02/03/Salon-com-Defends-Communism-Mass-Murders-and-All

[ArtemisVale]

A news anchor just said, "I'm going to say the name of this chemical but it has so many syllables you know it's a bad thing." NO. No, you don't know that based on phonetics. -Libertarian Girl