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Podcast for 13 July 2015

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July 12, 2015, 06:02:01 PM
[mp3]http://podcast.bogosity.tv/mp3s/BogosityPodcast-2015-07-13.mp3[/mp3]


Co-Host: Daniel Wilcox

News of the Bogus:
28:00/25:15 - Biggest Bogon Emitter: Sen. Tammy Baldwin (D-WI) http://mediatrackers.org/wisconsin/2015/07/02/sen-baldwin-1st-amendment-doesnt-apply-individuals

35:54/32:30 - Idiot Extraordinaire: Si Robertson http://www.rawstory.com/2015/07/duck-dynasty-star-si-robertson-atheists-dont-exist-because-they-use-calendars/

This Week's Quote: "Relying on the government to protect your privacy is like asking a peeping tom to install your window blinds." —John Perry Barlow
July 12, 2015, 11:41:02 PM #1
Quote from: MrBogosity on July 12, 2015, 06:02:01 PM
[mp3]http://podcast.bogosity.tv/mp3s/BogosityPodcast-2015-07-13.mp3[/mp3]


Co-Host: Daniel Wilcox

News of the Bogus:
28:00/25:15 - Biggest Bogon Emitter: Sen. Tammy Baldwin (D-WI) http://mediatrackers.org/wisconsin/2015/07/02/sen-baldwin-1st-amendment-doesnt-apply-individuals

35:54/32:30 - Idiot Extraordinaire: Si Robertson http://www.rawstory.com/2015/07/duck-dynasty-star-si-robertson-atheists-dont-exist-because-they-use-calendars/

This Week's Quote: "Relying on the government to protect your privacy is like asking a peeping tom to install your window blinds." —John Perry Barlow

I got to love how these assholes just grasp at straws in order to deprive  people of their free speech, assembly, and religious rights...
Meh
July 13, 2015, 02:13:23 AM #2
Whenever Daniel Wilcox does the Idiot Extraordinaire intro, it always reminds me of the Perilous Black Beast of AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Working every day to expose the terrible price we pay for government.
July 13, 2015, 02:17:50 AM #3
I've never realized until recently just how poorly managed the Olympic committee is, it's a good thing people are wising up to their bullshit.
Working every day to expose the terrible price we pay for government.
July 13, 2015, 10:35:35 AM #4
It sounds like the Olympics may have to accept that they need a permanent location, and that it needs to make money on a consistent basis.
July 13, 2015, 10:54:20 AM #5
Quote from: evensgrey on July 13, 2015, 10:35:35 AM
It sounds like the Olympics may have to accept that they need a permanent location, and that it needs to make money on a consistent basis.

It might be different if there could be some thought into what it could be turned into after the events. You could probably get at least an ampitheatre and a water park out of it. Maybe some housing if you get things like grocery stores to move in to the village. Of course, how convenient it is from anywhere is often a factor; it seems like the Athens venue was built out in the middle of nowhere.
July 13, 2015, 06:49:02 PM #6
Quote from: Dallas Wildman on July 13, 2015, 02:17:50 AM
I've never realized until recently just how poorly managed the Olympic committee is, it's a good thing people are wising up to their bullshit.

It's always puzzled me that they keep shifting the location: that's a ruinously expensive proposal in the long-run, since you have to do everything again from scratch.

Considering it's the Olympic games, why not just hold them at Olympias? It's in the Peloponnese, it's reasonably flat, and with the ruins nearby you'd have a link between past and present. And lord knows the assholes living there could use the oodles of money to bail out their sinking economy...
Meh
July 14, 2015, 01:18:08 PM #7
Quote from: MrBogosity on July 13, 2015, 10:54:20 AM
It might be different if there could be some thought into what it could be turned into after the events. You could probably get at least an ampitheatre and a water park out of it. Maybe some housing if you get things like grocery stores to move in to the village. Of course, how convenient it is from anywhere is often a factor; it seems like the Athens venue was built out in the middle of nowhere.

That doesn't always help much.  I know that the housing for the 1976 Summer Games ended up being rented as apartments (it's a somewhat famous weird apartment building known as Habitat), but that Games became infamous for this line from one of the major politicians of the time:  "The Olympics can no more lose money than a man can have a baby."

The main stadium structure wasn't finished until 1987 (when the ORIGINAL completion date was 1972), and the retractable roof was installed the next year (and use of it was ended in 1992, due to it being so unreliable and hard to shift in wind), and the roof was eventually replaced with a completely different roof that proved dangerous because it collapsed under a snow load.  Various other parts of the structure have fallen down during use at various times (with no casualties, fortunately, but it's worrying when public buildings fall apart like that).

The stadium was finally paid of in 2006, the total coming to $1.61 billion on an initial 1970 budget of $134 million.  (This currently makes it the fifth most expensive stadium ever built.  It also has no anchor tenant, the major league baseball team having left Montreal in 2004, BEFORE the stadium was paid off.  Incidentally, NOT from its' own revenues, but a special tobacco tax levied by the Province.)

Incidentally, there has been an extensive scandal and multiple criminal trials relating to corruption in the construction industry in the province of Quebec, centered in Montreal (the city where this stadium is located).
July 14, 2015, 02:38:56 PM #8
If I were put in charge of it (and wasn't given the option of, "Let them have the games somewhere else"), I'd probably try partnering with other organizations: housing developers, theme parks, concert venues, etc. from the beginning and make it so that as soon as the Olympics are over you can immediately begin the retooling for whatever other purpose they're going to have.

You'd think this would be quite the deal for those companies. With the local government footing the bill for the construction, they'd basically have free buildings they could just move in to once they're ready, little to no investment required. Which means that, if you couldn't find the companies to partner with you, then it's very likely a useless prospect to begin with.
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