Okay, this is getting old...

Started by Virgil0211, August 30, 2009, 11:30:40 PM

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Geez, he needs to read my blog about the traffic stuff...

"The benefits of social interractions can only be purchased with the limitations of the individual"

...spoken like a true fascist Thunderf00t...

Someone should show him John Stossel's ice rink experiment.  Anyone else seen that?  Where everything was going fine until Stossel tries to direct things so that people don't fall only to find MORE people were falling?

It's the same intellectually bankrupt argument as "there had to be a god, no way could this all form if you left it all to it's own devices."  We NEED planners or we'll all fall apart?  Well..then the planners need planners or they'll fall apart and so on and so forth...

It's amazing how people just don't see the parallel.
I recently heard that the word heretic is derived from the greek work heriticos which means "able to choose"
The more you know...

The ice rink was GREAT! It didn't even work when he had Brian Boitano do it!

I couldn't find a video of John Stossel and the Ice Rink deal, but I did find this criticism of it: http://www.fair.org/blog/2008/10/18/john-stossel-once-again-on-thin-ice/
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

Geez, talk about missing the point! He said it's "not clear what" Stossel was talking about--it's PERFECTLY clear!

September 12, 2009, 02:58:53 PM #20 Last Edit: November 26, 2009, 09:09:33 PM by surhotchaperchlorome
Quote from: MrBogosity on September 12, 2009, 01:56:19 PM
Geez, talk about missing the point! He said it's "not clear what" Stossel was talking about--it's PERFECTLY clear!
Not to mention his criticism about how "ice rinks have rules" is just stupid.
Libertarians are NOT saying there shouldn't be rules or laws.
That's not Libertarianism.  Hell, it's not even Anarcho Capitalism.

The point being made by Stossel is that when there is intervention imposed from the top down, it fails.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

September 12, 2009, 03:00:58 PM #21 Last Edit: August 02, 2012, 06:59:59 PM by surhotchaperchlorome
PS: Is this the video by thunderf00t that's got your attention?
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"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

OK, I'm sure it's the one.
I saw the discussion between Shane and others.
Man...that was nuts.

I facepalmed when I saw this comment:
VoteNixon2008: "I don't see how you can possibly call yourself an atheist when you think there's a benevolent invisible hand that guides and directs people onto the promised land"

Me:  Vegeta, what does the bogometer say about his bogosity and projection levels?
Vegeta:  IT'S OVER 9000!!!!
Me: WHAT, 9000!?!?
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

I've NEVER seen a rink that has police like he claims!

Are you referring to the article/blog I posted talking about the Ice Rink Experiment?
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

Shane and I are dealing with dogmatists in Thunderf00t's latest video (the one I linked to here).
Please help us if you can.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

September 12, 2009, 11:08:35 PM #26 Last Edit: September 12, 2009, 11:10:37 PM by Lord T Hawkeye
"If Stossel with his bullhorn is trying to demonstrate that arbitrary authority controlling our every move is a bad idea--well, it's not exactly clear who needed to be convinced of that."

You'd be surprised...

He also used the term "libertarian anarchy" which is actually Swahili for "I want to look smart but can't be bothered to actually look shit up"

In addition, what's his excuse for "frozen pond" type skating rinks that no one really owns or runs?  There's no people ramming each other left and right there so...
I recently heard that the word heretic is derived from the greek work heriticos which means "able to choose"
The more you know...

Of all them, Freemont100 is the biggest woo at the moment.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

September 20, 2009, 08:08:31 PM #28 Last Edit: August 02, 2012, 07:01:13 PM by surhotchaperchlorome
A rebuttal to Thunderf00t's video by FlowCell: [yt]KBipkULRTQI[/yt]
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

Wow, busted!  So when talking about evolution, morals are self regulating but as soon as you get to human society, suddenly you need a central planner?  Could the guy be any more dishonest?
I recently heard that the word heretic is derived from the greek work heriticos which means "able to choose"
The more you know...