Star Wars The Force Awakens

[ArtemisVale]

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The first note of the star wars theme I was like "Take my money, you know the drill!"

Also love the design of that lightsaber.

[evensgrey]

Well, it certainly looks like a trailer for a J. J. Abrams Star Wars movie should look like.

It does make me wonder what Paramount is doing about him being busy, though.

[ArtemisVale]

Well I am confidant that Abrams at least wont **** it up like Lucas did. He made Star Trek look good and that series is basically a bunch of fascists meddling in other peoples business and being the galaxy's police.

[MrBogosity]

Well I am confidant that Abrams at least wont **** it up like Lucas did. He made Star Trek look good and that series is basically a bunch of fascists meddling in other peoples business and being the galaxy's police.

Despite the Prime Directive which states they can't meddle in the internal affairs of non-member worlds.

[ArtemisVale]

Despite the Prime Directive which states they can't meddle in the internal affairs of non-member worlds.

Since when does the law matter to them?

[MrBogosity]

Since when does the law matter to them?

I think it helps to remember when watching Star Trek that you're looking at what's being done by a military vessel.

[R.E.H.W.R.]

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The first note of the star wars theme I was like "Take my money, you know the drill!"

Also love the design of that lightsaber.

Would be awesome if they actually used some longsword techniques.
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[evensgrey]

Would be awesome if they actually used some longsword techniques.
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Well, the trailer shows a (Sith, unless they've changed the color scheme) lightsabre with a crossguard.

But I hope they won't have feints in lightsabre combat.  As I see it, there are basically two kinds of foes for anyone using a lightsabre:  Ones without force abilities, against whom feints are not needed, and those with force abilities, against whom feints will not work.

[R.E.H.W.R.]

Well, the trailer shows a (Sith, unless they've changed the color scheme) lightsabre with a crossguard.

But I hope they won't have feints in lightsabre combat.  As I see it, there are basically two kinds of foes for anyone using a lightsabre:  Ones without force abilities, against whom feints are not needed, and those with force abilities, against whom feints will not work.

Why wouldn't a feint work on a force user?

[MrBogosity]

Why wouldn't a feint work on a force user?

They can anticipate where a blow is going to strike. That's how Luke can deflect laser fire blindfolded, without having to see the bolts or move his arms faster than light.

[R.E.H.W.R.]

They can anticipate where a blow is going to strike. That's how Luke can deflect laser fire blindfolded, without having to see the bolts or move his arms faster than light.

Sounds like it would canceled out by another force user.
and some EU cannon says otherwise.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Bane%27s_lightsaber
Nothing I have seen from my research on force user lightsaber combat supports this.

[MrBogosity]

Sounds like it would canceled out by another force user.
and some EU cannon says otherwise.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Bane%27s_lightsaber
Nothing I have seen from my research on force user lightsaber combat supports this.

Then it's yet another inconsistency, as many fights in the movies make no sense this way.

[evensgrey]

Sounds like it would canceled out by another force user.
and some EU cannon says otherwise.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Bane%27s_lightsaber
Nothing I have seen from my research on force user lightsaber combat supports this.

Then it's yet another inconsistency, as many fights in the movies make no sense this way.

The article itself is based on contradictory sources, and mentions the use of feints in only a single fight.

In any case, it is irrelevant to the movies.

I really can't see how you can have feints in a fighting technique used by people who are specifically able to predict the actions of their opponent in a fight.  (If they can't, then how would Darth Vader have been able to block Han's blaster shot?  And there are direct mentions that Force users can react to events before they happen, giving them a dominating edge over a non-user in almost any fight.)

[ArtemisVale]

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Its preety much what ive been thinking except I dont see why having the cortosis and the blades on the gaurd wouldnt be an even better solution so that youd still have a super lethal gaurd.

[MrBogosity]

Its preety much what ive been thinking except I dont see why having the cortosis and the blades on the gaurd wouldnt be an even better solution so that youd still have a super lethal gaurd.

Isn't the guard about as much about protecting your own arm from the blade? So if you aren't careful with that thing you could slice your own hand off!