CultOfDusty Logical Fallacies

Started by BlameThe1st, May 13, 2014, 04:53:05 PM

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My next target for my "Anti-Libertarians Can't Think" series is going to be CultOfDusty. Since he loves to boast about how he's a big fan of "LOGIC", I thought it would be cool to add a counter that counts and identifies all of the logical fallacies he makes in his video:

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I'd identify and count them all myself, but I can't watch his videos even once without the aid of heavy liquor. So I'm going to need some help. Just watch the video and identify as many logical fallacies as you can. I'll give credit to anyone who helps in my next video. I need all the help that I can. Thanks! :D


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@0:11-Never claimed it was magic, spontaneous != magical
@0:57-And yet people had time to figure out how Chick-fil-A and Mozilla's CEO was donating money to Anti-Gay Rights causes/groups.  If my PC caught fire, I'd tell people about the hardware in it.  I could go on.
@1:06-Interestingly enough they actually wanted to build their facilities closer to the shore so any catastrophe would be easier to contain.  Yet southern states govs prohibited this and Fed gov imposed a cap on economic damages.
@1:27-How pray tell do we trust the people in power who by their very nature are short-sighted, greedy, and now have the law on their side?  Sorry bub but that was Thomas Hobbes argument for a monarchy he is still wrong to this very day.
@2:05-We've taken steps in that direction before, only to wind up silencing ordinary people.
@2:12-Oh but we'll SO gladly take your money in taxes!
@2:21-Many regulations were supported by corporations to suppress competition.  At their very worst they destroy the livelihoods of the least politically connected.
@2:46-Well assuming the people they've "paid off" were those who relied on said land it would be more like a restitution than a bribe.  Even if they managed to keep those people quiet without actual or threatened physical violence, they'd still have clean up the mess they left behind if they wanted to sell their own property to someone else.

I'm off to play COD unless someone else comments I'll be back with more ;)
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May 14, 2014, 08:19:27 AM #2 Last Edit: May 14, 2014, 08:24:10 AM by MrBogosity
Dallas watched the first three minutes so I don't have to!

3:05 - See pretty much everyone's answer to Salon's "The Question Libertarians Just Can't Answer." Governments impose themselves by force. If you have a society where all the women are routinely raped, and someone said "There's a reason why every woman here gets raped every day," what would you say to them? Well, that's exactly what we say to you.

3:06 - If government is necessary, why does it need to be imposed by force? Food is necessary; no one has to force us to eat. Air is necessary; no one has to force us to breathe.

3:12 - (Did this guy go to Auctioneer School or something?) What happens to the poor? They stop being poor. The poor were never as upwardly-mobile as they were in the 19th century when government WASN'T regulating everything. The 5% poorest people of one year were not the same people as the 5% that were poorest the previous year. And even today, 80% of millionaires are self-made. Today, the only thing keeping poor people as poor as they are for as long as they are is the welfare state and its burdensome regulations. Look at the percentage of Americans in poverty and how it was dropping up until the Great Society, at which case the downward trend was stopped in its tracks.

3:12 - Well they COULD before government started intervening in health care ~45 years ago! For one day's wages they could get membership in a mutual aid society that would cover their medical expenses for a year. A lot of labor unions did the same thing. All of this was basically made illegal so that insurance companies wouldn't have any competition.

3:21 - Really? That's LITERALLY our response? So you can quote Libertarians saying those exact words, can you?

3:29 - Yes, it is an indefensible position. Good thing it's not ours.

3:33 - EVERY concept is an invented concept! It wouldn't be a concept unless some human invented it! But it's a very useful concept for solving a lot of issues. It's a store of value and a medium of exchange, that's fungible and divisible. What's your alternative?

3:39 - That's what they've BEEN doing, and the result is inflation. Inflation disproportionately hurts the poor, the working class, and small businesses. If you REALLY cared about these people you'd be calling to END inflation and go back to sound money, like the money the free market created in the first place.

3:48 - And how does that compare to how much money the government has?

4:10 - We want to get rid of GOVERNMENT education. (And of course, if government weren't doing it it wouldn't get done, right? It's not like we had the world's best educational system before government started getting involved or anything...)

4:20 - Yes, because the ones who win that contest would be the ones who do the best job educating our children. As opposed to government schools, where the failing schools get more money, incentivizing the "race to the bottom." And besides, I thought monopolies were supposed to be BAD. So why are they good when it comes to education?

4:29 - He DOES realize that it's possible for non-profit organizations to run schools, doesn't he?

4:35 - Really? So why do private schools do everything they can (scholarships etc.) to get as many poor students as they possibly can? And why do they do a BETTER job educating children with LOWER per-pupil spending?

4:48 - Just how DOES this guy think schools worked before government got involved? Community schools, run privately, accepted all the students in the area. We're seeing the same thing today with things like homeschool co-ops.

4:55 - Whereas with government schools, it's "fuck you" if you aren't rich enough to live in an area with good schools, and end up stuck in the shitty schools they put in the slums. Which are mostly there because of zoning and government housing projects anyway...

Wow, it took THAT long just to go through two minutes! Gish Gallop, anyone? Someone else can take over from 5:00 on...

Thanks for the input, guys, though I'm looking for things more along the lines of textbook logical fallacies: ad hom, strawman, post hoc, bandwagon, etc.


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Quote from: BlameThe1st on May 14, 2014, 12:47:47 PM
Thanks for the input, guys, though I'm looking for things more along the lines of textbook logical fallacies: ad hom, strawman, post hoc, bandwagon, etc.

It's mostly special pleading since as Jacob Spinney points out, he makes an argument and then exempts the state from that argument.
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The more you know...

Cantwell took a swing at Dusty.

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Quote from: tnu on May 17, 2014, 02:37:58 PM
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Damnit.  The comment Hawkeye made to Robert Jeffrey's comment regarding where Jacob Spinney is has disappared...either they downthumbed it into oblivion and/or marked it as spam...these are the freedom fighters of the intellectual age, people!

The comment was basically calling Robert out, noting "because give a group of sociopaths guns and the power to imprison at will and cross your fingers they don't abuse it is just totally realistic and not at all naive and stupid right?"  Cowards...
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Good news, gents! I'm currently working on the video and I will be uploading it within the next week or so.

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