kDest the statist again

Started by Travis Retriever, April 27, 2011, 05:47:49 PM

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April 27, 2011, 05:47:49 PM Last Edit: April 27, 2011, 05:55:41 PM by surhotchaperchlorome
For those not in the know, he's a state cultist (and even admitted to working as a government regulator), who, after participating in a discussion with me and Shane (and some other dude whose username escapes me), he was blocked after 2 offenses of libel, one false accusation (accusing me of being a sockpuppet of Shane's), and then blocked after making what sounded like a rather racist comment regarding black people and life insurance in an attempt to make what qualifies as force seem like a matter of cultural norms or some crap.
He even quote-mined Ludwig von Mises in an attempt to discredit the economic calculation problem as an argument from ignorance!

He keeps bothering me on my YouTube channel page:  http://www.youtube.com/vspqbd (He still seems to think I'm a sockpuppet of Shane's...oy, this guy is a complete fucktard.)

I don't have the strength to deal with him right now, nor do I really have much interest in him anymore.
As usual, he's playing the martyr card, like all good cultists and woos do.

So what do you think I should do?
Should I block him, and then post a big fuck you response in which I sum up what happened?
Should I ignore him?
What do you think?
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on April 27, 2011, 05:47:49 PM
For those not in the know, he's a state cultist (and even admitted to working as a government regulator), who, after participating in a discussion with me and Shane (and some other dude whose username escapes me), he was blocked after 2 offenses of libel, one false accusation (accusing me of being a sockpuppet of Shane's), and then blocked after making what sounded like a rather racist comment regarding black people and life insurance in an attempt to make what qualifies as force seem like a matter of cultural norms or some crap.
He even quote-mined Ludwig von Mises in an attempt to discredit the economic calculation problem as an argument from ignorance!

He keeps bothering me on my YouTube channel page:  http://www.youtube.com/vspqbd (He still seems to think I'm a sockpuppet of Shane's...oy, this guy is a complete fucktard.)

I don't have the strength to deal with him right now, nor do I really have much interest in him anymore.
As usual, he's playing the martyr card, like all good cultists and woos do.

So what do you think I should do?
Should I block him, and then post a big fuck you response in which I sum up what happened?
Should I ignore him?
What do you think?

Point him to Fletchforfreedom, tell him you'll get back to him later. See how he reacts.

Quote from: Virgil0211 on April 27, 2011, 05:57:11 PMPoint him to Fletchforfreedom, tell him you'll get back to him later. See how he reacts.

Will do.  Thanks, Virgil0211.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

April 27, 2011, 11:37:49 PM #3 Last Edit: April 27, 2011, 11:44:37 PM by surhotchaperchlorome
Although what really got annoying with him was when his arguments about slavery and child labor (among many MANY others we've heard before) were debunked by both me and Shane, I started getting assertive with my arguments.  I started questioning him and putting him in the position of defense, getting him to try and defend the state.
After a whole mess of arguments from the status quo, he resorts to what is the single biggest cop-out argument of them all:  Culture.
Seriously.  He said stuff like, "If it is in the culture of people to have slaves, they will have slaves."  completely ignoring the fact that the state had to prop it up.  Unless he thinks the state = culture = the people's will too.  Which is complete bullshit! How many people were "for" the bailouts (not counting the politicians and their cronies)?  And last I checked, the war in Iraq only had an approval rating of about 25% if even that?
This is why I l facepalmed when, after I asked him why if slavery was culture, why did they need the laws (Something Shane kept asking Widdip during their scuffle, but never got a straight answer of), and he responds with, "Why are laws against rape there?  Or murder?  Because it's our culture!" along with a few insults.  Umm....yeah, I guess our statist friend forgot that restating your conclusion is circular argument.
And of course, ignoring the economic reasons behind this and the fact that slavery was already on its way out despite the laws propping it up.
Culture doesn't change the laws of economics, boys and girls.
Also, if he believes that the majority rules, based on his appeals to the status quo and to democracy, then by his own admission, all of his previous arguments regarding "capitalism leads to child labor/slavery/etc" yada yada yada, are all red herrings.  After all, according to him, those things that happened during the industrial revolution of horrible working conditions, etc (even it if wasn't just an ivory tower judgement), WERE the culture of then!  So according to him, he can't be against that either!
And as MisterBusta has already explained, based on his reasoning, no progress is ever possible, as we cannot ever judge the past; for that was the status quo/majority rules of it's day, ergo, it was just as valid as what we have today.
I mean, come on!  More special pleading from a statist:  typical.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

Quote from: Virgil0211 on April 27, 2011, 05:57:11 PMPoint him to Fletchforfreedom, tell him you'll get back to him later. See how he reacts.

And after you and I did that, I haven't heard hide or hair of kDest.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

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If u want to see some Marxist cancer about child labor, look here
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