Battledome

[MrBogosity]

Voldemort is Orc food.

I think this is a big point in the story: Voldie isn't really all that strong as wizards go. He just studied lots of dark magics and prepared for the future. If he hadn't, the whole story wouldn't have happened because he would have been destroyed when Harry was an infant if not long before. He was able to do what he did because he united the Death Eaters but, the Order of the Phoenix notwithstanding, magical Britain was a snivelling bunch of political blowhards who couldn't even agree on right or left, much less unite against them.

[MrBogosity]

Hell, by comparison, they're both fodder to Dr. Strange. Then again, so are most things.

Well, now you're just not being fair...

Should I just go ahead and bring The Doctor in?

[AnCap Dave]

Well, now you're just not being fair...

Should I just go ahead and bring The Doctor in?

Go ahead. Dr. Strange wrecks him in too.

Here's the stats for The Doctor for comparison:
Name: The Doctor, Theta Sigma (ΘΣ), real name is The Dr. Who
Origin: Doctor Who
Gender: Male
Classification: Alien (Time Lord)
Age: At least 2000 (Is likely much older)
Powers and Abilities: Incredible intelligence and experience, can regenerate into a new body if fatally wounded, if he's within 15 hours of his regeneration cycle he can regrow severed body parts and instantly heal from more injuries, regeneration (mid-low, can regrow body parts in a few weeks), enhanced senses, low level telepathy, enhanced perception of the world such as feeling the Earth moving, can sense the presence of other Time Lords, can detect and is resistant to time alterations including time loops, and can remember people and things that were erased from time, resistant to physical possession and many forms of telepathy and mind control, olfactory ventriloquism, hypnosis, all of his different incarnations exist in his mind as alternate personalities, can resist, absorb, and expel many types of toxins and radiation, capable of telling the age, time period, and composition of materials and places by tasting or smelling them, can pick up and master physical skills (such as soccer) almost instantly, omnilingual, respiratory bypass system allows him to survive without oxygen for extended periods of time and filter out unpleasant smells
Weaknesses: A bit arrogant in some forms, believes himself unable to change various events in history or is unwilling to do so, and despises guns (Although not killing in general), can become physically and mentally weakened during the first few hours of his regeneration cycle, And apples are rubbish. Burning out both of his hearts at the same time or killing him before he has time to regenerate can bypass his regenerations, only has a regeneration cycle of 12 regenerations. the sonic screwdriver doesn't work on deadlocks or wood.
Destructive Capacity: Street level, Wall level with the eighth doctor's sonic and war/10/11's combined, sometimes much higher during regeneration: 10's regeneration took down the tardis (which is HUGE on the inside), 11's regeneration destroyed a dalek ship (which generally can survive planet-destroying blasts)
Range: Depends what equipment he is using
Speed: Human level, although his constant running down corridors for 2000 years might have helped that a bit. His reactions are superhuman.
Durability: Seems to be resistant to damage only a bit more than a normal human, regeneration allows him to survive things humans couldn't. Is extremely resistant to radiation and various chemicals and poison. Has survived getting struck by lightning multiple times, falling several dozen meters, temperatures up to -200 degrees (likely Celsius but never stated) for 10 seconds, can survive without oxygen for several minutes. Regeneration makes him harder to kill, and directly after regeneration he can regrow hands and such.
Strength: Above average human level
Stamina: Peak human
Standard Equipment: A TARDIS (Time and Relative Dimension in Space), or time/space machine. The TARDIS, due to its time manipulation, is VERY hax (Not to mention it can destroy the multiverse by blowing up). Psychic Paper shows whatever the person who holds it wants it to say (it works on almost everyone, as well as computers). Sonic Screwdriver can destroy and disable machines, lock and unlock things that are not deadlocked or wood, and be used as a repair tool (it has a psychic interface and is controlled by thought). His jacket has dimensionally transcendental pockets, allowing them to have more space on the inside than on the outside like the TARDIS. He has a pair of shades that give the user infrared/thermal imaging vision. Jelly babies are delicious and brainy specs make him look smart. Also, bow tie. Fez and/or stetson (cowboy hat) optional.
Intelligence: Over 2000 years of experience allows him to know insane amounts of things about the universe, including every known language and various technologies. Expert knowledge on genetic engineering. Has practically entire history books of knowledge in his brain for Earth. His own intelligence is enormous; he has created a bomb that could destroy all life on one surface of the Earth in an hour out of trash, rivaling Tony Stark and MacGyver. In one (canon) EU novel he outsmarted an AI from a race that were clear expys of The Culture. He has on several encounters and different incarnations been able to defeat both Eternals and Guardians of Time, on one occasion turning a group of them mortal. Overall, handing him preparation for a match, even only an hour's worth, is like handing Batman any sort of prep and the utility belt combined. He also has a photographic memory (In his Eleventh incarnation). His kinesthetic abilities are also superhuman, having been able to pick up and learn all rules and techniques of soccer, becoming professional level about thirty seconds after he's been introduced to it. He is also a highly skilled swordsman, skilled with a crossbow, as well as skilled in hand-to-hand combat.

Notable Attacks/Techniques:
- The Delta Wave: With prep time, depending on the equipment accessible, he can broadcast a wave that will from put to sleep to kill anyone with an organic brain. Range can go from personal to at least planetary

- Memory Dump: The Doctor can instantly download or upload any information he likes with a headbutt, which he considers to be vastly unpleasant. Considering this is the doctor's mind, this could be a potentially devastating technique as humans can't handle a Gallifreyan's psyche very well.

- Dance: He dances. Somewhat.

- The Fury of a Time Lord:

[MrBogosity]

Go ahead. Dr. Strange wrecks him in too.

Yeah, doubt it. Witness their main fallacy:

Destructive Capacity: Street level, Wall level with the eighth doctor's sonic and war/10/11's combined, sometimes much higher during regeneration: 10's regeneration took down the tardis (which is HUGE on the inside), 11's regeneration destroyed a dalek ship (which generally can survive planet-destroying blasts)

This is NOT his destructive capacity. It's what he's WILLINGLY done. There's a difference between what he's CAPABLE of doing and merely what he's had to resort to in the past. Many times during the show the Doctor has shown fear over what could happen if he goes too far. And I notice they conveniently omitted wiping out (well, almost) the two most advanced races in the universe (the Daleks and the Time Lords).

Besides, even if Doctor Strange were to become an all-powerful destroyer of the universe, well, the Doctor's dealt with PLENTY of those before! Just another boring day for him.

But considering they actually said, "real name is The Dr. Who," I think we can write off these guys as completely clueless!

[MrBogosity]

Oh, and by the way: "only has a regeneration cycle of 12 regenerations." Except we just saw regeneration #13! NEVER tell the Doctor the rules!

[Travis Retriever]

But considering they actually said, "real name is The Dr. Who," I think we can write off these guys as completely clueless!

The line for his real name on the Battledome wiki struck me as a bit off.  I thought his real name--him being an alien race called a Time Lord and all--was something unpronounceable and has people asking, "Doctor Who?" (hence the name of the franchise).  So most people just call him "The Doctor."

wiping out (well, almost) the two most advanced races in the universe (the Daleks and the Time Lords).

A bit off topic but is this guy supposed to be the the hero or the villain of this series?  Even in the video I saw of his Time Lord's Fury:

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to me he just comes off as a smug asshole with little regard for human life, much less freedom or liberty.  And this line of yours kinda makes him out as a mass murderer.

[AnCap Dave]

Yeah, doubt it. Witness their main fallacy:

This is NOT his destructive capacity. It's what he's WILLINGLY done. There's a difference between what he's CAPABLE of doing and merely what he's had to resort to in the past. Many times during the show the Doctor has shown fear over what could happen if he goes too far. And I notice they conveniently omitted wiping out (well, almost) the two most advanced races in the universe (the Daleks and the Time Lords).

Besides, even if Doctor Strange were to become an all-powerful destroyer of the universe, well, the Doctor's dealt with PLENTY of those before! Just another boring day for him.

But considering they actually said, "real name is The Dr. Who," I think we can write off these guys as completely clueless!

Unless the Doctor pulls some faster than light speed stuff, regardless of whether or not he claims to be more powerful than shown is irrelevant. The fact is, Dr. Strange could just bind him with The Crimson Bands of Cytorrak, which is strong enough to restrain someone Class 100 level physical strength characters (strong enough to lift a tank sized mass) then simply put him to sleep forever with The Seal of Morpheus. If he didn't want to make him sleep, he could also completely screw with his mind by using The Images of Ikonn.

Unless you got some video evidence of The Doctor performing physical feats stronger than that, he's not even getting out of the binds.

Only way The Doctor is coming through on this one is if he's already in the Tardis, which it does say has universe+ level destructive capacity.

[MrBogosity]

The line for his real name on the Battledome wiki struck me as a bit off.  I thought his real name--him being an alien race called a Time Lord and all--was something unpronounceable and has people asking, "Doctor Who?" (hence the name of the franchise).  So most people just call him "The Doctor."

Actually, his name is a huge secret, and an entire religious order exists to prevent the secret from becoming known. In the whole wide universe, now that the Time Lords are gone, the only one known to know his real name is River Song, and that's only because he married her.

A bit off topic but is this guy supposed to be the the hero or the villain of this series?  Even in the video I saw of his Time Lord's Fury:

That was the thing about Ten: no second chances. All the Family of Blood had to do was live out their short life. But no, they had to follow the Doctor and start killing people. With Ten, you did NOT pass up the one and only chance he gave you, because after that he wouldn't hold back. Yes, he's the hero, but he could so easily become the villain with scarily little prodding in the wrong way.

As Eleven once remarked, when Madame Kovarian told him she wasn't afraid of him, because he's a good man and has too many rules, "Good men don't need rules. Today is not the day to find out why I have so many."

And then, of course, when House said, "Fear me! I killed hundreds of Time Lords!" He simply replied: "Fear ME: I killed ALL of them!"

to me he just comes off as a smug asshole with little regard for human life, much less freedom or liberty.  And this line of yours kinda makes him out as a mass murderer.

Just the opposite: he has compassion for all living things, and hates guns and war and tyranny. I've lost count of the number of oppressive governments he's helped to overthrow. But when you've lived for over a thousand years, your perspective changes. This is why he generally travels around with a young female human companion: he needs a human to humanize him, a female to feminize him, and youth to keep him from being too old. They've done episodes exploring what he's like when he doesn't have a human companion; it generally isn't good.

Unless the Doctor pulls some faster than light speed stuff,

Child's play to a Time Lord.

The fact is, Dr. Strange could just bind him with The Crimson Bands of Cytorrak, which is strong enough to restrain someone Class 100 level physical strength characters

The Pandorica was built to be able to hold even the most dangerous being in the universe forever. It withstood an exploding TARDIS. And the Doctor STILL got out of it.

(strong enough to lift a tank sized mass) then simply put him to sleep forever with The Seal of Morpheus. If he didn't want to make him sleep, he could also completely screw with his mind by using The Images of Ikonn.

After dealing with the Akhaten parasite god and the Dream Lord, not to mention the Great Intelligence himself, I'd say, been there, done that.

Unless you got some video evidence of The Doctor performing physical feats stronger than that, he's not even getting out of the binds.

Well, let's see...one time the ENTIRE UNIVERSE ENDED, for all time, every sun went supernova at every point in history, and the Doctor STILL got out of it and brought it back.

And don't ever discount his cleverness. The sonic screwdriver may not work on wood, but that didn't stop him using it to defeat a wooden Cyberman!

[Travis Retriever]

And then, of course, when House said, "Fear me! I killed hundreds of Time Lords!" He simply replied: "Fear ME: I killed ALL of them!"

Well, let's see...one time the ENTIRE UNIVERSE ENDED, for all time, every sun went supernova at every point in history, and the Doctor STILL got out of it and brought it back.

Is he like a super time lord or something given he was able to get rid of the rest of his species?  Also, why did he have to kill the rest of them off?  Were they all evil or something?  I ask because that kinda clashes with the "compassion for all living things" deal.  I don't mind not counting the Daleks who seem to me just robots and who IIRC are evil conquerors or something.

[MrBogosity]

Is he like a super time lord or something given he was able to get rid of the rest of his species?  Also, why did he have to kill the rest of them off?

Long story, that I can't get into without spoiling it for those who haven't seen the 50th Anniversary special.

Short version: the Daleks were going to destroy all creation and become the only remaining life form, and the Time Lords were going to destroy all creation and become beings of pure thought.

Were they all evil or something?  I ask because that kinda clashes with the "compassion for all living things" deal.

I can't answer any more without spoiling the 50th.

I don't mind not counting the Daleks who seem to me just robots and who IIRC are evil conquerors or something.

They're not robots; they're mutants who need the metal casing to survive. They're highly intelligent beings who were genetically designed to hate all other life forms and exterminate them.

[Travis Retriever]

Long story, that I can't get into without spoiling it for those who haven't seen the 50th Anniversary special.

Short version: the Daleks were going to destroy all creation and become the only remaining life form, and the Time Lords were going to destroy all creation and become beings of pure thought.

I can't answer any more without spoiling the 50th.

They're not robots; they're mutants who need the metal casing to survive. They're highly intelligent beings who were genetically designed to hate all other life forms and exterminate them.

*shrugs* I was planning on checking the series out if only to see what all the hoopla is about.  Spoilers never really bothered me.  And I think D might want them, if only to help with the disagreement.
That would explain the "EXTERMINATE" memes with them.

[AnCap Dave]

Child's play to a Time Lord.

The Pandorica was built to be able to hold even the most dangerous being in the universe forever. It withstood an exploding TARDIS. And the Doctor STILL got out of it.

After dealing with the Akhaten parasite god and the Dream Lord, not to mention the Great Intelligence himself, I'd say, been there, done that.

Well, let's see...one time the ENTIRE UNIVERSE ENDED, for all time, every sun went supernova at every point in history, and the Doctor STILL got out of it and brought it back.

And don't ever discount his cleverness. The sonic screwdriver may not work on wood, but that didn't stop him using it to defeat a wooden Cyberman!

Have any actual episodes or clips of reference? Did he do any of the strength feats on his own or were they the doing of the Tardis?

Also, as far as Dr. Strange's powers go, they get even more ridiculous. Apparently he changed the laws of physics so vampires couldn't even exist, and apparently has erased people from ever existing at all. For instance, in this scene where he actually erased an entire dimension out of existence because he deemed it too horrible.


Here's some other Strange feats from comics:
Taking away Silver Surfer's powers:


Also able to stop time. Not that this is anything in particular when it comes to Time Lords, but still figured it was worth mentioning:


After Dr. Strange pissed off Eternity, Eternity summoned The Ancient One to attack Dr. Strange. Dr. Strange manipulated time to age The Ancient One to the point where he would remember Dr. Strange and stopped fighting him:



You said Dr. Who survived supernovas. Did he survive them on his own or with the help of the Tardis? I only ask because Strange can throw energy blasts with the power of a supernova casually.


Here's Dr. Strange using Images of Ikkon on Galactus which leaves him powerless.



Here's Dr. Strange seeing something go down in another dimension and quickly putting a stop to it.



Like I said before, it matters whether or not we're talking about with or without the Tardis.

[MrBogosity]

Have any actual episodes or clips of reference? Did he do any of the strength feats on his own or were they the doing of the Tardis?

He actually didn't use the TARDIS for any of them. He used the a vortex manipulator to timey-wimey his way out of the Pandorica and reboot the universe (The Big Bang), he didn't use the TARDIS against the parasite god (The Rings of Akhaten), the TARDIS was just a setting with the Dream Lord (Amy's Choice), and the only thing he used against the wooden Cyberman was his wits and a screwdriver that doesn't work on wood.

Oh, and I forgot to mention: he DIED at Trenzalore. As in, he visited his own remains and they were confirmed his (The Name of the Doctor). Yet when he actually went to Trenzalore (The Time of the Doctor), he just decided to change things and regenerate into Peter Capaldi. Without the TARDIS. (Although he did use a crack in space-time that was connected to [SPOILERS!].)

and apparently has erased people from ever existing at all.

Yep, that happened, too. Of course, even The Inquisitor on Red Dwarf could do that and he was just a rogue android.

[Skm1091]

With a well-placed Crucio, I'm sure it would.

I don't know? They are pretty tough.

[MrBogosity]

I don't know? They are pretty tough.

So's the Cruciatus Curse. The pain is worse than "one thousand white-hot knives, boring into the skin," and prolonged use can cause permanent mental injury, implying that it works directly on the pain centers of the brain. And again, nothing the wizards have can block it or defend against it. It can even shatter solid objects.