Battledome

[Skm1091]

I don't think either side really made good use of what they had for the war, in the books or in the movies. The possibilities that come from just having a time-turner...

I'm not sure about that

didn't JK rowling once say that a muggle with shotgun can beat a wizard?

Also if wizards were that powerful they should be the rulers of the planet and not have to hide from the muggles. This implies that their magic although powerful does have limitations.

And there is a big chance is direct fight that the Kryptonian might will be simply too much for even couple dozen wizards, even those who are of Dumbledore and Voldemort level.

[dallen68]

I'm not sure about that

didn't JK rowling once say that a muggle with shotgun can beat a wizard?

Also if wizards were that powerful they should be the rulers of the planet and not have to hide from the muggles. This implies that their magic although powerful does have limitations.

And there is a big chance is direct fight that the Kryptonian might will be simply too much for even couple dozen wizards, even those who are of Dumbledore and Voldemort level.

Well, yes, if a muggle with a gun catches a wizard without a warding spell active (which takes time to cast) the gun wins.

Even with the limitations, the wizards should be ruling the planet, or at least been just recently not ruling the planet. (With 20th century level technology, their magic is no longer as significant of an advantage) This has always been one of my "problems" with the premise of HP.

In a direct fight, the Kryptonians would win simply because Kryptonians get on with it; while wizards have a half hour conversation and a poetry contest in every battle.

In Prisoner of Azkaban, it is implied that muggles are mostly immune to magic. (Which is why they never see the magic around them; of those that do, it's easy enough to convince them that they didn't see what they thought they did or convince everyone else they're "not right")

[Skm1091]

Well, yes, if a muggle with a gun catches a wizard without a warding spell active (which takes time to cast) the gun wins.

Even with the limitations, the wizards should be ruling the planet, or at least been just recently not ruling the planet. (With 20th century level technology, their magic is no longer as significant of an advantage) This has always been one of my "problems" with the premise of HP.

In a direct fight, the Kryptonians would win simply because Kryptonians get on with it; while wizards have a half hour conversation and a poetry contest in every battle.

In Prisoner of Azkaban, it is implied that muggles are mostly immune to magic. (Which is why they never see the magic around them; of those that do, it's easy enough to convince them that they didn't see what they thought they did or convince everyone else they're "not right")

Even in a direct confrontation with a gun. I doubt the wizard can do much against it. Because let say a Wizard and a British Soldier were facing down one another about a hundred feet away. In the movie the spells looked as if they were slow enough for someone to dodge, even deflect with a shield charm. You can't really do that with a bullet, especially bullets that can travel 2 to 4 times the speed of sound. Have you ever pointed a laser pointer against the wall? As soon as you press it on the red dot has instantaneously hit the wall. There is no way someone with average human reflexes can block that in time.

 

[dallen68]

Even in a direct confrontation with a gun. I doubt the wizard can do much against it. Because let say a Wizard and a British Soldier were facing down one another about a hundred feet away. In the movie the spells looked as if they were slow enough for someone to dodge, even deflect with a shield charm. You can't really do that with a bullet, especially bullets that can travel 2 to 4 times the speed of sound. Have you ever pointed a laser pointer against the wall? As soon as you press it on the red dot has instantaneously hit the wall. There is no way someone with average human reflexes can block that in time.

Well, yeah. Kinda what I said. If the warding spell isn't already active, the wizard is dead by the time he pulls out his wand. This, of course, assumes there's a warding spell that's effective against muggle projectiles, which isn't actually established. Oh, and plus the poetry contest.

[MrBogosity]

didn't JK rowling once say that a muggle with shotgun can beat a wizard?

Not if he can apparate away quickly enough. Or use the aforementioned time-turner.

Also if wizards were that powerful they should be the rulers of the planet and not have to hide from the muggles. This implies that their magic although powerful does have limitations.

They don't care about ruling over muggles. They have their own little tyranny and they like it like that. It would be like us wanting to rule over ants.

[Skm1091]

Well, yeah. Kinda what I said. If the warding spell isn't already active, the wizard is dead by the time he pulls out his wand. This, of course, assumes there's a warding spell that's effective against muggle projectiles, which isn't actually established. Oh, and plus the poetry contest.

poetry contest?

[Skm1091]

Not if he can apparate away quickly enough. Or use the aforementioned time-turner.

They don't care about ruling over muggles. They have their own little tyranny and they like it like that. It would be like us wanting to rule over ants.

There is my issue with the time-turner thing. Why didn't they just use that to prevent Voldemort from ever coming to be?

I could be missing somethings here because I haven't read the books in the long time.

[dallen68]

poetry contest?

The one where they can't just cast the spell, they have to recite 10 minutes worth of verbiage for everything. Like you don't just "patronise" and there it is - it's actually a detailed incantation.

[dallen68]

There is my issue with the time-turner thing. Why didn't they just use that to prevent Voldemort from ever coming to be?

I could be missing somethings here because I haven't read the books in the long time.

I believe the time-turner has limitations on how far it can go back or what can be changed.

[Skm1091]

The one where they can't just cast the spell, they have to recite 10 minutes worth of verbiage for everything. Like you don't just "patronise" and there it is - it's actually a detailed incantation.

Avada blah blah blah

I get it now

[AnCap Dave]

It would be like us wanting to rule over ants.

Somewhere right now, a politician is reading this and thinking, "Hey, that's a good idea!"

Let's not give them ideas.


So Batman eventually gets a green lantern ring.

Who takes him down?

[Skm1091]

Somewhere right now, a politician is reading this and thinking, "Hey, that's a good idea!"

Let's not give them ideas.


So Batman eventually gets a green lantern ring.

Who takes him down?

Angel Spawn?

Superman?

[AnCap Dave]

Angel Spawn?

Superman?

Angel Spawn? Maybe if Batman doesn't have any prior intel on him.

Superman? Highly unlikely. Batman has worked with Superman long enough as part of the Justice League that Batman knows damn near everything there is to know about Superman. Add this with the fact that he now has close to equal firepower thanks to the Green Lantern ring, Superman's as good as dead.

[dallen68]

Superman while wearing a miner's helmet with a yellow light bulb?

[AnCap Dave]

Superman while wearing a miner's helmet with a yellow light bulb?

The ring might not do much, but you know Bats is packing that kryptonite on him just in case.

Batman's the type of guy that has backup plans for his backup plans for his backup plans.

In fact, in the comics, Batman has gone on record stating that he always carries a piece of kryptonite around just in case Superman ever snaps.