SecularTalk: Gun Deaths.

Started by Skm1091, December 19, 2013, 03:59:29 AM

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As they say.

A good economist looks at SEEN and the UNSEEN of a policy

A bad economist only looks at the SEEN and nothing else.

This definitely applies here. Not Economics, but similar concept.


The study he links to is from Think Progress. They're as biased as Fox News, if not more so.

Quote from: BreadGod on December 19, 2013, 04:46:21 PM
The study he links to is from Think Progress. They're as biased as Fox News, if not more so.

Think Progress? Oy vey.

Since they have people like Diana Carew, that is not unexpected.

https://www.bogosity.tv/forum/index.php?topic=1533.msg14096#msg14096

Of course the public voted them down. Two state senators in Democratic areas in Colorado were taken out of office - comfortably - because the NRA commanded, and people obeyed. It was electoral terrorism
From comments of thinkprogress article linked in description.

And proggies claim not to be conspiracy theorists. And what the fuck is electoral terrorism?

Quote from: nilecroc on December 21, 2013, 04:17:04 PM
Of course the public voted them down. Two state senators in Democratic areas in Colorado were taken out of office - comfortably - because the NRA commanded, and people obeyed. It was electoral terrorism
From comments of thinkprogress article linked in description.

And proggies claim not to be conspiracy theorists. And what the fuck is electoral terrorism?

Funny thing is control over weapons is nothing new. Going all the way to ancient and medieval times, there were laws that restricted the populace from certain kind of weapons etc.

Ex in Medieval China, if you were caught with illegal weapons, you could be sentenced to a year's worth of hard labor.

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I don't call these people progressives, I should call them REGRESSIVES.

Also they only cherry pick the gun murders. This is my counter claim on the video.

QuoteMore guns= more gun homicides?

Well duh this like saying, more razors= more slashed wrists or, more pools = more death in pools. You have to look at everything across the board, guns knifes, bare hands, bats etc, NOT JUST GUN HOMICIDE/SUICIDES.

This is the difference between a good analyst and analyst. A good analyst looks at the effects of a policy and also possibly unforeseen consequences. A bad analyst looks at only the effects and nothing else.

Ex. UK after gun control. It is true that gun violence did go down, however this is outweighed by the fact that OVERALL homicide rate WENT UP. UK rate prior to gun control was around 0.6 to 0.8 after gun control was enacted it went as high as 2.0. It has dropped to 1.2 in recent times, but it is still higher than it was prior to gun control.

I think the good economist/bad economist analogy fits well here.

Quote from: Skm1091 on December 21, 2013, 04:40:39 PM
Funny thing is control over weapons is nothing new. Going all the way to ancient and medieval times, there were laws that restricted the populace from certain kind of weapons etc.

Ex in Medieval China, if you were caught with illegal weapons, you could be sentenced to a year's worth of hard labor.

of (watch video bellow)

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I don't call these people progressives, I should call them REGRESSIVES.

Also they only cherry pick the gun murders. This is my counter claim on the video.

I think the good economist/bad economist analogy fits well here.
The term progressive makes no god damn sense because it's so vague.