How long will YouTube survive?

[MrBogosity]

Yeah, not only that but they still remain subscribed to you and can continue to watch your videos and what not.

I don't care about that; I just want to be able to stop people from using threats or racist comments or whatever on my videos.

[evensgrey]

They haven't died off yet, and this is like the 100th time that an update has made their site  worse.

This is the first time I've seen something changed that went to catastrophically broken instead of just stupid.

[Travis Retriever]

This is the first time I've seen something changed that went to catastrophically broken instead of just stupid.

Second time for me.  The first thing was what got me to leave YouTube.  It was when they wouldn't let you comment without giving your real name; or at least the name you had with your Google or Google+ account.  Fuck that shit.

[evensgrey]

Second time for me.  The first thing was what got me to leave YouTube.  It was when they wouldn't let you comment without giving your real name; or at least the name you had with your Google or Google+ account.  Fuck that shit.

When did they do that?  I don't recall it ever happening.  You just had to close the prompt to change the name (until they made Google+ mandatory).

[dallen68]

When did they do that?  I don't recall it ever happening.  You just had to close the prompt to change the name (until they made Google+ mandatory).

They let you keep your pseudonym if you have an established audience using that name. The intention, I think, was good: to help deter people from using the anonymity of user names for abuse.

[Travis Retriever]

When did they do that?  I don't recall it ever happening.  You just had to close the prompt to change the name (until they made Google+ mandatory).

Only to have it reappear the second I try to type my comment.

[Ibrahim90]

They let you keep your pseudonym if you have an established audience using that name. The intention, I think, was good: to help deter people from using the anonymity of user names for abuse.

EDIT: it has the unintended consequence to make it difficult to make a new pseudonym, should you want to start a new channel for video making

[dallen68]

EDIT: it has the unintended consequence to make it difficult to make a new pseudonym, should you want to start a new channel for video making

Actually, IIRC, it has the intended sub-consequence of making it difficult to make a new pseudonym, should you want a new channel for video making. IIUC the TOS, in order to make a new channel under a pseudonym, you have to provide evidence that you have a following under that alias (like on facebook, twitter, instagram, etc.)

Other than that, you have to produce/comment under your real name, so that people you harass/intimidate/other wise cause some actionable injury to can sue the real you. (As opposed to them suing google for allowing you a forum.)

[BreadGod]

Actually, IIRC, it has the intended sub-consequence of making it difficult to make a new pseudonym, should you want a new channel for video making. IIUC the TOS, in order to make a new channel under a pseudonym, you have to provide evidence that you have a following under that alias (like on facebook, twitter, instagram, etc.)

Other than that, you have to produce/comment under your real name, so that people you harass/intimidate/other wise cause some actionable injury to can sue the real you. (As opposed to them suing google for allowing you a forum.)

Forcing people to use their real name is my biggest problem with this change. They had good intentions, but it backfired horribly. No matter what you do to deter trolls, they'll just get creative. I typed in a bunch of bullshit for my Google+ account. What's to stop a troll from doing the same?

As for the question that started this topic, I have a feeling that YouTube will slowly die out over a number of years. MySpace didn't die in a day, after all.

[evensgrey]

Forcing people to use their real name is my biggest problem with this change. They had good intentions, but it backfired horribly. No matter what you do to deter trolls, they'll just get creative. I typed in a bunch of bullshit for my Google+ account. What's to stop a troll from doing the same?

As for the question that started this topic, I have a feeling that YouTube will slowly die out over a number of years. MySpace didn't die in a day, after all.

As the person who asked said question, I think it will be slow for a while, until a proper substitute for YouTube (without the completely fail warts and misfeatures Google has been dumping into it) come along and reaches critical mass, at which point YouTube will abruptly die.

I n at least one sense, this will be unfortunate, as YouTube has a lot of good TV on it these days.

[MrBogosity]

As the person who asked said question, I think it will be slow for a while, until a proper substitute for YouTube (without the completely fail warts and misfeatures Google has been dumping into it) come along and reaches critical mass, at which point YouTube will abruptly die.

I n at least one sense, this will be unfortunate, as YouTube has a lot of good TV on it these days.

I think it'll be more tied in with social media. YouTube rose to prominence because of its quasi-social nature. Now, you can embed videos pretty much anywhere and put them on Facebook, Google+, or wherever. Especially with the advent of things like HTML5, I think the day is coming when the person you shared the video with won't have a clue where it's hosted.

[AnCap Dave]

This has nothing to do with Google+, but apparently Youtube has officially started going full force with content id matching video game videos.

Popular youtuber DSP (Dark Side Phil) confirmed via Twitter that they marked 48 of his videos ranging from recently to the last 1.5 years:

YouTubes new content-ID matching is now turned ON: I just got 48 content ID matches on videos ranging the past 1.5 years. Knew it was coming

Another user by the name of Vash is giving even grimmer news in terms of copyright abuse:

today gets even funnier guys...Nintendo copyrighted a Dead Space 2 video....let that sink in a bit before you crack up laughing.

@snipey13 that's the funny part. They claim they own the music in dead space

[dallen68]

This has nothing to do with Google+, but apparently Youtube has officially started going full force with content id matching video game videos.

Popular youtuber DSP (Dark Side Phil) confirmed via Twitter that they marked 48 of his videos ranging from recently to the last 1.5 years:
Another user by the name of Vash is giving even grimmer news in terms of copyright abuse:

So, I guess I won't be seeing many more MMOx plays skyrim or skyrim mods of the week. 

[AnCap Dave]

Vash just gave this report as well:

got something hilarious to tell you guys. so part 38 of my warriors playthrough got a copyright claim for music...i check the claim in the video and its LITERALLY just crowd noise NO music. i check the song they claim it to be and the beginning of their song is crowd noise...... so these guys have copyrighted crowd noise? so if another band has a baby crying in their video can they copyright all the baby noises on youtube? this shit is stupid.

[MrBogosity]

It's been like that all the time. One of my classical piano pieces (Debussy, public domain worldwide) got content-matched. The funny thing was it got content-matched for no less than TWELVE different recordings!