Re: Repost of arguments from a right-wing friend of mine

[Travis Retriever]

Even more stuff from another dude on YouTube:

Me:  "I agree with Dan, with a huge exception.
We didn't need to go into WWII or WWI for that matter."

Him:  "'We didn't need to go into WWII'

if you had been president, you would have just forgiven japan for pearl harbor?"

Me:  If you were president, would you have used an interventionist foreign policy that led to WWI, and that helped Hitler rise to power, while arming the allies, giving the Japanese reason to attack us?
All of which could have been avoided, and saved countless lives?

Him:  "- US policy did not lead to WWI, i can't think why you would say this

- many factors helped hitlers rise, however i would put the US govt's contribution lower than many other factors (clemenceau at versailles and german cultural obedience to authority spring to mind)

- the Japanese attacked pearl harbor to ensure their oil grab in SE asia wouldn't be hindered by the US fleet"

I don't know about the Japanese said of this story, but I think given the information Shane gave me to deal with that conservative friend of mine, (which I posted as a reply to this latest dude's comments), the Japanese stuff should be irrelavent (maybe).

Him:  - none of that explains how US policy led to WWI

- i mentioned versailles already, and clemenceau, not wilson, was the key mover behind vengeful repayments

"Germany would not have signed the Versailles Treaty, which has enthroned Nazism in Germany"
- versailles was a significant factor, but there were many other factors, the causation for this and other events, such as the russian revolution, is not as straightforward as your comments seem to convey.