Podcast for 25 February 2013

[MrBogosity]

[mp3]https://bogosity.podbean.com/mf/web/23w7v8/BogosityPodcast-2013-02-25.mp3[/mp3]


News of the Bogus:

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  0:25 - Amazon patents the milkman http://www.geekwire.com/2013/amazon-patents-milkman-recurring-deliveries/
  
  
  
  • Amazon's patent http://www.google.com/patents/US8370271
  • Patent on PB&J with the crust cut off http://www.google.com/patents/US6004596
  • Patent on swinging on a swing sideways http://www.google.com/patents/US6368227
  • Patent on fixing a hole with plaster 6994809
  • Patent on carrying a towel around your neck 6718554
  • Patent on "exercising" cats using a laser pointer http://www.google.com/patents/US5443036
• 3:45 - CMPD review panel rules against citizens — every time http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/02/16/3860400/cmpd-review-panel-rules-against.html
• 6:15 - The Deadly Opposition to Genetically Modified Food http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/project_syndicate0/2013/02/gm_food_golden_rice_will_save_millions_of_people_from_vitamin_a_deficiency.html
• 9:30 - Crime soared with Mass. gun law http://bostonglobe.com/opinion/2013/02/17/the-nation-toughest-gun-control-law-made-massachusetts-less-safe/3845k7xHzkwTrBWy4KpkEM/story.html
  
  
  
  • The Black Market for Firearms https://www.bogosity.tv/forum/index.php?topic=1718.0

13:35 - Biggest Bogon Emitter: Steven Mufson http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/gas-prices-are-on-a-mysterious-climb/2013/02/19/26298f84-7ade-11e2-82e8-61a46c2cde3d_story.html

15:45 - Idiot Extraordinaire: Ken Ham http://blogs.answersingenesis.org/blogs/ken-ham/2013/02/02/a-tiny-feathered-dino/

This Week's Quote: "If people had understood how patents would be granted when most of today's ideas were invented, and had taken out patents, the industry would be at a complete standstill today." —Bill Gates

[AnCap Dave]

Don't know if you've corrected it already before uploading it here, but you accidentally called Thomas Jefferson "The father of invention."

[MrBogosity]

Don't know if you've corrected it already before uploading it here, but you accidentally called Thomas Jefferson "The father of invention."

The father of AMERICAN invention is what I intended to say, or thought I said.

EDIT: And, indeed, that's what I did say. There is no error (THIS time).

[AnCap Dave]

The father of AMERICAN invention is what I intended to say, or thought I said.

EDIT: And, indeed, that's what I did say. There is no error (THIS time).

I thought Thomas Edison was considered the father of American invention?

[MrBogosity]

I thought Thomas Edison was considered the father of American invention?

Nope, Jefferson. Edison came WAY too late for that.

http://patents-search.com/jefferson.html

[AnCap Dave]

Nope, Jefferson. Edison came WAY too late for that.

http://patents-search.com/jefferson.html

Hmm...well I guess you learn something new every day, because this is the first time I've ever heard Jefferson referred to as the father of American invention. I've heard it attributed to Edison several times though. Well that's kind of cool then.

[Ibrahim90]

well, I do know this part:

Khomeini's been dead since before I was born: he died not long after the conclusion of the Iran-Iraq war in 1989. the current guy is Khamane'i (there's a glottal stop there--and an a rather than an O).

[evensgrey]

Hmm...well I guess you learn something new every day, because this is the first time I've ever heard Jefferson referred to as the father of American invention. I've heard it attributed to Edison several times though. Well that's kind of cool then.

Edison's greatest invention was the industrial R&D lab, which basically means he invented a way to pay the sort of people who are good at developing technology for doing it as a job instead of them having to do something for a living and invent something on the side, then try to commercialize it.  Few people have the skill set and personality to do all the steps well, and this idea allowed a separation of labor between developing new technologies and bringing them to market.  As with almost all instances of separating labor, the result was an increase in productivity.

[MrBogosity]

Edison's greatest invention was the industrial R&D lab, which basically means he invented a way to pay the sort of people who are good at developing technology for doing it as a job instead of them having to do something for a living and invent something on the side, then try to commercialize it.  Few people have the skill set and personality to do all the steps well, and this idea allowed a separation of labor between developing new technologies and bringing them to market.  As with almost all instances of separating labor, the result was an increase in productivity.

Yeah, but unfortunately, the way the patent system works (and Edison exploited this unashamedly) it's the person in charge of the lab who profits from the invention, with the actual inventors just doing it as work-for-hire.

[evensgrey]

Yeah, but unfortunately, the way the patent system works (and Edison exploited this unashamedly) it's the person in charge of the lab who profits from the invention, with the actual inventors just doing it as work-for-hire.

Fortunately, many corporations have more ethical practices these days and while the way patents work still means the corporation owns it outright, the actual inventor gets a percentage of the profits from the patent.

Edison, being a nasty son of a bitch with ethical standards on a par with a weasel, would have found a way to exploit the actual inventors working for him regardless of what the patent laws said.  (Look at all the illegal activities The Trust engaged in to keep the people he didn't want involved in the movies out, for instance.)

[Interstate317]

http://www.xconomy.com/boston/2013/02/28/mit-report-us-manufacturing-hits-a-wall-when-its-time-to-scale/

Or http://tinyurl.com/buv9fut

MIT researchers find that shipping jobs overseas result of not having enough domestic investors

Cough*federal reserve*cough

[Interstate317]

http://tinyurl.com/6s52984

Legalizing (didn't even realize it was illegal) direct to consumer car sales could reduce price 3000 dollars.