Yes! The One Subject at a Time Act has been introduced!

Started by MrBogosity, January 31, 2012, 10:55:01 AM

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http://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburgh/prnewswire/press_releases/Pennsylvania/2012/01/31/DC44741

QuoteAKRON, Ohio, Jan. 31, 2012 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- "It's been a long time since Congress needed a majority to pass a law," says Jim Babka, President of DownsizeDC.org, Inc. "But that could change, thanks to Congressman Tom Marino of Pennsylvania (R-10), who has introduced our 'One Subject at a Time Act' (OSTA) in Congress."

"OSTA would require each bill Congress passes to be about one subject only," Babka explains. "This would end the practice of clustering unrelated measures into one package. Congressional leaders have long used this trick to pass unpopular laws on the strength of the popular proposals with which they're unnaturally joined. OSTA would end this fraud forever."

"Every bill would have to stand or fall on its own merits," declares Babka.

Congressman Marino told his constituents that Obamacare was a big motivation for introducing OSTA. "In order to garner enough votes to pass the law, a host of unrelated measures were tacked onto Obamacare," says Marino.

"But multi-subject bills are an old bipartisan problem. DownsizeDC.org created OSTA in response to numerous omnibus bills passed when the Republicans controlled Congress. For instance, the massively unpopular Real ID Act was only passed because the Republican leadership included it in an Emergency Troop Appropriation bill. That bill also included tsunami relief! Another example is the ban on Internet poker. It was included in a Port Security bill," says Babka.

Babka commends Representative Marino for his leadership and applauds the Williamsport Tea Party for their crucial support. "Now we can begin to collect co-sponsors for this vital reform," Babka concluded.

SOURCE DownsizeDC.org, Inc.

You can read the bill here: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:H.R.3806:

In a time where a bill requiring politicians to be subject to all their own bills was shouted down, how on earth did this manage to pass their "quality control" I wonder?
I recently heard that the word heretic is derived from the greek work heriticos which means "able to choose"
The more you know...

Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on January 31, 2012, 01:04:29 PM
In a time where a bill requiring politicians to be subject to all their own bills was shouted down, how on earth did this manage to pass their "quality control" I wonder?

you're also talking about the people who have two differently named acts (SOPA and PIPA)* that essentially do the same things being debated in congress right now. they're just not very clever. but I'm sure you know that already  :P

once they realize their "mistake", they'll shoot it down in no time. and if not them, then comrade Stalin Obama. if it passes, then it will be a lucky day. If it is not ignored by the media and congress people that is...


*barring any amendments or subtleties I'm not aware of.
Meh

Chances it gets gutted/thrown out/ignored + disregarded even if passed:  100%

I mean, come on!  The U.S. Constitution is by definition the Supreme Law of the land, yet they ignore that every single day.  Why would another piece of paper change that if the one we already have didn't?
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

I'm excited, even if it doesn't pass it will be because it was voted against by specific politicians who will have to take a stance against the bill as opposed to ignore it. That's something that can be used against them later.

Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on January 31, 2012, 03:31:45 PM
Chances it gets gutted/thrown out/ignored + disregarded even if passed:  100%

I mean, come on!  The U.S. Constitution is by definition the Supreme Law of the land, yet they ignore that every single day.  Why would another piece of paper change that if the one we already have didn't?

The difference is, if you read the bill, you'll see that it gives people the right to a de novo action against the enforcement of any such act. Provided it doesn't get gutted, that is.

Quote from: MrBogosity on January 31, 2012, 04:09:20 PM
The difference is, if you read the bill, you'll see that it gives people the right to a de novo action against the enforcement of any such act.
Because government never goes against its own laws and acts right?  And that's even if it isn't gutted, much less even passed.

And even if it *is* on paper, that assumes they'd even go along with it in the first place.  Fat chance. :P
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537


Quote from: MrBogosity on January 31, 2012, 04:21:57 PMA de novo action they HAVE to recognize.

OK.  They're supposed to recognize the Constitution.
In fact, the Constitution thing makes it worse, because unlike a single bill with some Latin (?), the Constitution (as you yourself have said) is the "Supreme Law of the Land"  the law that "nothing is above".
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

Don't get me wrong, if this acts as the much needed chemotherapy to GovCo, I'll gladly eat my words. Until then, yeh...no.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

To be honest, I don't see this getting passed. If it does, I wouldn't be surprised if they attached something horrible to it.

Quote from: D on January 31, 2012, 06:49:22 PM
To be honest, I don't see this getting passed. If it does, I wouldn't be surprised if they attached something horrible to it.

If they did, wouldn't it be invalidated by the act itself?

Quote from: MrBogosity on January 31, 2012, 08:04:48 PM
If they did, wouldn't it be invalidated by the act itself?

Not exactly. If anything, the law would probably apply to every other new incoming law after that, but it wouldn't necessarily invalidate one attached directly to it at the time. I mean sure, you would think so, but it wouldn't surprise me if they pulled that kind of stunt.

I'm not sure how you could get a law like this that would mean anything.  No mere act of a legislature can restrict the future actions of that legislature in any meaningful way, since it can be undone with no more effort than any other action.

Quote from: evensgrey on January 31, 2012, 10:17:46 PM
I'm not sure how you could get a law like this that would mean anything.  No mere act of a legislature can restrict the future actions of that legislature in any meaningful way, since it can be undone with no more effort than any other action.

Again, read the bill: it provides a remedy in court for anyone aggrieved by the enforcement of such an act. The legislature may be able to ignore it all they want, but the courts can't.