Even MORE War.

Started by AnCap Dave, October 14, 2011, 08:27:34 PM

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Because clearly, at least three wars (Afganistan, Iraq, Libya) aren't enough...
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on October 15, 2011, 08:55:13 AM
Because clearly, at least three wars (Afganistan, Iraq, Libya) aren't enough...

Don't forget Pakistan and Yemen.


Quote from: MrBogosity on October 15, 2011, 10:23:01 AM
War breeds war; peace breeds posterity. http://wrights2012.com/2011/10/war-breeds-war-peace-breeds-prosperity-2/

Read that this morning. Great read. Ended up posting it on Facebook also.

I guess Obama is doing all he can now before the next election comes up because he's about to have a press conference claiming that he will be taking all troops out of Iraq by the end of the year.

Let's see where this goes. Will post details once details come up.

Quote from: D on October 21, 2011, 12:48:41 PM
I guess Obama is doing all he can now before the next election comes up because he's about to have a press conference claiming that he will be taking all troops out of Iraq by the end of the year.

Let's see where this goes. Will post details once details come up.

Personally, if neither Ron Paul or Gary Johnson get the Republican nomination, and the libertarian candidate loses the election proper, I hope Obama wins. I haven't seen any equivalent to Paul/Johnson thus far on the Democrat side who would be in a position to win the primaries. I'd rather Johnson/Paul have another chance in 4 years rather than 8.

Edit: Just to be sure, I wouldn't vote for him. Im either voting for Paul/Johnson or Libertarian. Its just the outcome I'd prefer if both situations came to pass.

Quote from: Virgil0211 on October 21, 2011, 01:14:54 PM
Personally, if neither Ron Paul or Gary Johnson get the Republican nomination, and the libertarian candidate loses the election proper, I hope Obama wins. I haven't seen any equivalent to Paul/Johnson thus far on the Democrat side who would be in a position to win the primaries. I'd rather Johnson/Paul have another chance in 4 years rather than 8.

Edit: Just to be sure, I wouldn't vote for him. Im either voting for Paul/Johnson or Libertarian. Its just the outcome I'd prefer if both situations came to pass.

I'd pick nobody and would prefer nobody.

As Lee Wrights says, "Evil always begets evil." So even the lesser of two evils is still evil, and the enemy of my enemy is not my friend.

Quote from: D on October 21, 2011, 12:48:41 PM
I guess Obama is doing all he can now before the next election comes up because he's about to have a press conference claiming that he will be taking all troops out of Iraq by the end of the year.

Let's see where this goes. Will post details once details come up.

Given the 'skill' he's shown in the handling of really frickin' HARD international events (and removing your troops from a place where they're kind of a large part of what's keeping various groups of people from trying to slaughter each other has GOT to be one of the worst problems you can have) I expect that if he does that, the whole thing will have long since gone to hell before the election comes up, and this will be seen as his fault for screwing up the withdrawal.

IIRC, this is pretty much the problem that everyone who said going into Iraq was strategically unwise were saying:  How do we get OUT again?

Quote from: D on October 21, 2011, 01:53:55 PM
I'd pick nobody and would prefer nobody.

As Lee Wrights says, "Evil always begets evil." So even the lesser of two evils is still evil, and the enemy of my enemy is not my friend.

I'm not saying he'd be good. I'm saying that it would be better for Paul/Johnson to have a shot in 4 years rather than 8. Remember, this requires that neither Paul nor Johnson get the nomination AND the libertarian candidate loses.

Quote from: D on October 21, 2011, 12:48:41 PM
I guess Obama is doing all he can now before the next election comes up because he's about to have a press conference claiming that he will be taking all troops out of Iraq by the end of the year.

Let's see where this goes. Will post details once details come up.

like my grandmom says:" from the b**** comes the puppy". he probably won't actually do what he promises-just like the other idiots (b******* in the parable) running this country the past 30-50 years. like them, he'll go down in history as just another worthless asshat who steered this country closer to total ruin.

As to Dr. Paul or Gary Johnson? well, Johnson is unlikely to win (he gets even less coverage than Dr. Paul, so who will know him), and Paul? he is covered, and stands a chance, but we all know how media bias can screw a man over. and they're doing that at the moment. I think many here must have heard about how the idiots at CNN didn't even give him a closing statement.
Meh

Quote from: Ibrahim90 on October 21, 2011, 08:06:54 PM
like my grandmom says:" from the b**** comes the puppy".

You know it's not actually a swear word in that context, right?

QuoteI think many here must have heard about how the idiots at CNN didn't even give him a closing statement.

I saw it. And it didn't get past the Reason.TV live-bloggers, either.

October 21, 2011, 11:58:43 PM #12 Last Edit: October 22, 2011, 12:13:49 AM by Ibrahim90
Quote from: MrBogosity on October 21, 2011, 08:19:04 PM
You know it's not actually a swear word in that context, right?

I saw it. And it didn't get past the Reason.TV live-bloggers, either.

yeah, but I know how people react to that word, even when used properly. they'll tolerate "Ass". "idiot", and a few others, but use "Fuck" and "Bitch", even in a correct and well meaning context, and they blow it out of proportions. I almost got kicked out of a forum for correctly using the word "Shit" to refer to its original meaning. As you can tell from my choice of words, language in RL for me is pretty...coarse/blunt. So as an adaptation, I tend to almost instinctually self-censor online.

by and by: I figured you would have seen it: glad Reason TV bloggers took notice of it. Let's hope the rest of the country does.
Meh

Yes, but even in the proper context (referring to sex and excrement, respectively) "fuck" and "shit" are still considered swear words. "Bitch" is a word properly used by dog trainers and breeders and other canine experts without a second thought; only the most ignorant of the ignorant would get on your case for using it that way.

Quote from: MrBogosity on October 22, 2011, 08:18:57 AM
Yes, but even in the proper context (referring to sex and excrement, respectively) "fuck" and "shit" are still considered swear words. "Bitch" is a word properly used by dog trainers and breeders and other canine experts without a second thought; only the most ignorant of the ignorant would get on your case for using it that way.

or the prudish or prudes?
Meh