Paul Wins Post Debate MSNBC Poll

[AnCap Dave]

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Commentary flying after the MSNBC Presidential debate centered on the barbs between Mitt Romney and Rick Perry. However, nearly 70,000 cast their votes on MSNBC's website following the contest. Nearly half of those participating a thumbs up to Rep. Ron Paul. Romney and Perry took second and third respectively.

Paul polled 47%, Romney 19.4% and Perry 15.1%.

Responders noted that Paul had been given "almost no time to speech" yet provided the most substantive answers.

Paul stressed de-centralization of government as the solution to the nation's woes. He had strong answers for several 'baited' questions. For instance, a commentator asked him about dismantling regulations, suggesting that without the federal government no one would have charge of consumer oversight or even air traffic control.

Not missing a beat, Paul explained, "you do not need government in a free society. The market place takes care of regulation. I say consumers in America are smart enough to buy a safe car." He added that privatization would replace national regulation and needed regulations would fall by to state and local control. Taking a swipe at government agencies, Paul reminded everyone that regulations prevented air craft pilots from carrying guns. If the pilots of the terrorist hijacked pilots on 9/11 had weapons, the tragic attacks likely would have been foiled.

The candidate suggested that "Congressional lobbyists have control of writing regulations" through political contributions. When government "runs people's lives," the "mandates" administered are plagued by inflationary issues.

Commentators often cut him off not allowing him to assert "the details" of terminating the federal government from "running our lives."

The same time fixed brevity impacted Michelle B1chmann who stated that "Obama care is killing jobs" and "kids need jobs." The how and alternatives were not explored.

Rick Perry seemed to debate Democrats as well as Romney. Perry, stated JFK had stressed the "most powerful welfare program is a job, appearing to attack President Obama and the Democrats before Thursday's jobs speech to the nation.

Meanwhile, Paul differentiated himself from President Ronald Reagan's agenda and the former president's results, He recalled that in the 1980's "We spent too much and talked too much," resulting in "huge deficits. I support President Reagan's message, not the consequences."

Well at least Paul came out and said that Regan wasn't the paragon of small government that people keep making him out to be.

In other news, apparently Rick Perry had a beef with Ron during a commercial break.

Got some pictures:




Perry looks mad as hell.

[FSBlueApocalypse]

And he'll still be ignored by the MSM because their stupid polls tell them otherwise

[FSBlueApocalypse]

Speaking of polls, Shane, can you do longer than 10 minute videos now? Would appreciate it if you could reupload the old bogosity videos in their entirety and not in 3 parts.

[MrBogosity]

I've been debating doing that with the HD versions. Of course, blip.tv has them uninterrupted.

[Ibrahim90]

the debate?

well, here's my (farcical) take on it:

there was a Cow, two asses, a goat, a murderer, a troglodyte, and a clueless chicken-wuss (or tumbleweed-hard to tell). And a Doctor-just about the only one who didn't piss me off one way or another. let me know if I missed anyone. I saw and heard the debate while I was doing physics assignments (all 11 questions), so as mentioned, this is deliberately satirical, based on what I did pay attention to:

let me break it down further:

1-on stimulation:

[spoiler]-all but Dr. Paul's (and sorta Cain) were crap. Cain was part crap. basically, Romney, huntsman, and Perry were doing the equivalent of comparing penis sizes in a locker, with there supposed economic miracles. in the process, they never really explain what they are going to do-or not do (I'm still not sure of all but Perry, and he only because I've had to live in his Texas), and what I do gather seems to run the gamut from flat out socialism (Romney), to ? (Huntsman). talk about skirting round the point. the Cow (I forget her name-she looked and acted the part though), had little that could be construed as human language to say on this, and Cain? he's got a simple plan (at least he's just flat out stated it-so only part crap rating), but it isn't conservative enough (9-9-9? why not 0-0-0?, or for the lulz, 2.5-0-0, with the 2.5% being voluntary, so still 0-0-0).

Oh, I have to say this: the one part I did understand from the Cow here said she'd bring gas to $2/ gallon. Ron Paul really smacked her down: 10 cents a gallon is a far superior price-with a minimal amount of action. and it can go down even more of course. she's clearly not the real McCoy-unlike a certain Doctor.

and Newt should go to Hell. damn Fiat printing ******** ******, "let's grow the economy" *******! worthless ********...[/spoiler]

2- On Medication

[spoiler]all but Paul are either sellouts, or just don't know any better. Romney is a Sellout, Perry is a Sellout, Santorum is a Sellout (him and Romney may be closet socialists, I dunno). the rest either mooed ( I think you know who), or left me thinking: huh?

Perry is a total douche-bag: he's trying to imply that it was immoral to not force girls to get inoculated for STD's. well, maybe if you and your *******s at the Texas, Board of education actually had taught a little bit more to the students than "abstinence only" (in effect, censoring educational material), people in that hell-hole wouldn't be running around with the clap now, would they sunshine? oh, and by and by, the fact that standards can easily go to hell in a public system is another reason I do not like public education-there are more, but that's worth another whole thread. oh, and he's a hypocrite regarding a certain 3 Giga-dollar hospital he financed[/spoiler]

3-on the border:

[spoiler]shoot me if you want, but all of them sucked to one extent or another-even Dr. Paul. At least he has a reason behind it that I can sort of grasp (the drug wars), though if he had his way with the Drug wars, that shouldn't be much of an issue, so what the hell. the Cow was most intelligible here, speaking real sentences (must be an epic feat by any standards), and what she said was scary: testing for mental illness? poking round for criminal record? etc. don't get me wrong, i don't want criminals anymore than the next man here, but what if the guy did the crime 20 years ago? and it was petty, or, he was seeking a new, Honest life?

and some asshole wanted to make English the official language....at this rate, it would be more reasonable to make Spanish so.

and Rick Perry was a total hypocrite. Santorum sucked, though not quite as hard as most. Cain seemed clueless.[/spoiler]

4-on Global Climate Change and Evolution:

[spoiler] **** Perry! **** him hard! **** him with a broomstick! researching these things is a waste of time? Evolution is not "proven"? Global Warming not "proven"? and before you say he doesn't have the power to affect research or ban research altogether: you're talking about a man who did indeed force girls to get inoculated from STD's- directly against the Texas Constitution (yes, unsurprisingly, Dr. Paul was dead accurate)- and who tried, through the board of education, to make Texas the next Kansas. you really think he'll listen to the constitution?

this is not to say that accepting Global warming is to force govt. regulations on industry to meet some emission standard or other-quite the contrary. [/spoiler]

5-the Death Penalty:

[spoiler]now personally, I am admittedly apathetic about this issue per se (I personally think Wirgelt makes more sense-it's the Arab in me), but I do draw the line when some bastard, who has in fact signed the death warrant on a man proven innocent, and had him killed, can go on the stage and say with a straight face, that the State he runs is careful enough not to have killed innocent people. as many an angry and unrestrained Arab has said regaridng particularly obnoxious people: "ayree feeh!!"[/spoiler]


actually, now that I think about it, maybe MSNBC accidentally did Ron Paul a favor? I mean, Romney came across (as usual) as a sellout, Newt as a filthy...newt, and Perry...well, it only confirmed what I already knew about him, and revealed him as the disgusting hypocrite he is. and that woman was so forgetful, that I couldn't remember her name...and finally, RP did win the debate according to that poll.

[MrBogosity]

Well, since you did that, I thought I'd post the Facebook updates I did as I watched it (removing comments from my friends):

I'd like to thank the Republicans in last night's debate for proving quite definitively that econometrics is bullshit and can be used to come to whatever conclusion you want.

Newt: "We are ALL for defeating Barack Obama!" Oh, so THAT'S why you guys are running against him! [rolls eyes]

My point was that Newt was acting like he was making this big point, and he got huge applause, when he really wasn't saying anything at all.

Haven't heard much from Paul so far; as usual he's only got to speak once while everyone else has gotten multiple goes.

As long as [Ron Paul's] view on health care is the same as it was on The View a few months ago, I'm still with him on that issue.

Oop, here we go: they asked him an unrelated question and he said, "I'm a physician, I'd like to address health care!" Yeah, interesting that they skip over the one MD on the stage...

Wow, he did NOT get to say much! He was trying to cram in the answers to four different questions and the moderator cut him off. Paul said, "You've got to give me time to answer!" And the moderator said, "There are rules!" Well, aren't there some rules in there about letting EVERYONE have a chance to answer the questions???

Cain's mantra: "We shouldn't eliminate x, we should fix it." Okay, how?

Wow, SO much stuff just to stop peaceful people from coming here and contributing to our society and our economy--which could really use it about now!

Michele Bachmann just made it clear she doesn't understand the difference between the requirements to immigrate to the US and the requirements to become a US citizen.

I swear, drink any time someone mentions Ronald Reagan and you're drunk before it's half over!

Once again, Santorum (deliberately?) misrepresents non-interventionism as isolationism. But that's the statist mentality, I guess.

Wow, nice refreshing pro-science comments from Huntsman!

...and then Perry has to open his mouth and make me facepalm.

‎"Gov. Perry, your state has killed more criminals than any other in history." Audience APPLAUDS!!! WTF???

Come on, moderators! You're going to let Perry get away with that? Why doesn't someone confront him with the name Cameron Todd Willingham and see if he's as smarmy and self-satisfied then?

[Ibrahim90]

Well, since you did that, I thought I'd post the Facebook updates I did as I watched it (removing comments from my friends)

that works!

I see you touched on Newt's partisan comment. forgot about it myself XD

really, it only goes to show what the OP says: Ron Paul was by far the winner, even taking into account lack of talk time. sadly, they'll try to ignore him still.

[MrBogosity]

I also liked how he was the only one who pointed out that Reagan didn't live up to his own rhetoric. It reminds me of what Davy Crockett said about Andrew Jackson: "I'm still a Jacksonian, even if Jackson no longer is" (probably not exact).