What kind of a Libertarian are you?

Started by FSBlueApocalypse, July 23, 2011, 04:23:05 PM

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Saw this quiz in an email and felt like sharing

http://quizfarm.com/quizzes/new/Brainpolice/what-kind-of-libertarian-are-you/

My results were

You Scored as Left-libertarian

Left-libertarians are libertarians that are more associated with the anti-authoritarian left than other libertarians. Left-libertarians can be minarchists, but many are anarchists who are in alliance with the anarchist left. Left-libertarians are more critical of conservatism and corporatism than most libertarians. They view libertarians in a hsitorical context that is interconnected with the history of the left.

Left-libertarian
92%
Anarcho-capitalist
83%
Minarchist
67%
Agorist
67%
"Small L" libertarian
42%
Geo-libertarian
25%
Paleo-libertarian
17%
Libertarian socialist
8%
Neo-libertarian
0%

Sure, I'll bite.  Here's my results:

You Scored as Anarcho-capitalist

Anarcho-capitalists are libertarians who oppose the state entirely and propose to have a free market in the provision of security and arbitration. The term anarcho-capitalism derives from Murray Rothbard to describe a stateless society based on the principles of laissez-faire or the philosophy in support of such a proposition. Anarcho-capitalists may tend to still associate more with the political right and make use of the political process, unless they are agorists or left-libertarians at the same time.

Anarcho-capitalist 100%

Agorist 100%

"Small L" libertarian 67%

Left-libertarian 67%

Minarchist 0%

Geo-libertarian 0%

Libertarian socialist 0%

Neo-libertarian 0%

Paleo-libertarian 0%

I'm surprised at how accurate this ended up being. :o
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

July 23, 2011, 05:20:03 PM #2 Last Edit: July 23, 2011, 05:24:24 PM by MrBogosity
Many of the questions were too vaguely worded for my taste, but this is how I came out:

You Scored as Left-libertarian

Left-libertarians are libertarians that are more associated with the anti-authoritarian left than other libertarians. Left-libertarians can be minarchists, but many are anarchists who are in alliance with the anarchist left. Left-libertarians are more critical of conservatism and corporatism than most libertarians. They view libertarians in a hsitorical context that is interconnected with the history of the left.

Left-libertarian       83%
Agorist       83%
Minarchist       75%
Anarcho-capitalist       75%
"Small L" libertarian       67%
Paleo-libertarian       17%
Geo-libertarian       8%
Neo-libertarian       0%
Libertarian socialist       0%

Is there any way to see their description of the other categories?

Quote from: MrBogosity on July 23, 2011, 05:20:03 PMMany of the questions were too vaguely worded for my taste,

Hence why I was surprised that it was as accurate for me as it was. :P
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

Here are some others I've seen

Minarchist
Minarchists are libertarians who advocate a strictly limited government and usually a more decentralized form of it. Minarchists may vary in the degree to which they think that government should be limited, although the bare bones position is essentially nothing more than police, courts and the military. Minarchists tend to think that some minimum level of government is a necessary evil, or at least an inevitability. The contemporary libertarian movement in America is dominantly minarchist, although it has had a long history of dialogue and debate between minarchist and anarchist libertarians.

Paleo-libertarians
Paleo-libertarians are influenced by and in alliance with paleoconservatives and are likely to be former paleoconservatives themselves. Paleo-libertarians are strongly associated with the "old right". Some may tend to be social or cultural conservatives. Paleo-libertarians tend to differ with other libertarians particularly in terms of their tendency to support immigration restriction and strong border security. One of their primary targets of criticism, if not the main target of their criticism, is globalism.

"Small L" libertarian -

Small l libertarians are libertarians, usually of the minarchist variety, who do not particularly identify with the official Libertarian Party or are not active in it, or may even actively oppose it. Small l libertarians are likely to view the Libertarian Party as moving in too moderate of a direction. Small l libertarian may tend to be more radical than many official Libertarian Party members. Some small l libertarians eventually transition to agorism, a completely apolitical approach to libertarianism.

Only one I think is off base is the "Small L" one. More often than it is because people think the Libertarian Party is just too small and trying to take over one of the major parties is a better option.

So, Ron Paul would be a Paleo-libertarian.

I disagree on the big-L small-l thing, too. Way I've always seen it used, it's Libertarian if you're a member or supporter of the Libertarian Party, and libertarian if you just agree with the philosophy. All Libertarians are libertarians, but not all libertarians are Libertarians.

Tinkering with the quiz I got

Libertarian socialist

Libertarian socialists are libertarians, often of an anarchist variety, who advocate some kind of voluntary socialism. They tend to differ from other schools of socialism in various ways. The tradition of libertarian socialism has largely taken place in Europe.


I haven't seen what has been written for Neo-Libertarian, Geo-Libertarian, or Agorist wherever I've seen this quiz


Quote from: FSBlueApocalypse on July 23, 2011, 06:37:09 PM
Tinkering with the quiz I got

Libertarian socialist

Yes, the oxymoronic category I was most interested in seeing...

QuoteLibertarian socialists are libertarians, often of an anarchist variety, who advocate some kind of voluntary socialism.

Problem: how can socialism EVER be voluntary?

QuoteI haven't seen what has been written for Neo-Libertarian, Geo-Libertarian, or Agorist wherever I've seen this quiz

Since I tied with Agorist, I was able to get it by changing one answer:

"Agorists are market anarchists or anarcho-capitalists (often former anarcho-capitalists) who have moved in the direction of rejecting participation in the political process in favor of more direct action in the form of economic secession and civil disobedience in general, with particular emphasis on making use of black or grey markets. Agorism could be viewed as a radicalized version of anarcho-capitalism, or a radicalized outcome of taking it in new directions. Agorists tend to be more closely associated with the traditional anarchist left than many anarcho-capitalists."


I still just don't get what "Libertarian Socialism" really means.

The only thing I can think of is creating a socialist society that is separate from a free market one and allowing a voluntary choice.

Agorist is an interesting one. Seems like they want to put Atlas Shrugged into practice.

Trying to figure out where my 8% Libertarian Socialist came from, I guess since I answered Yes to being an environmentalist.

As far as Ron Paul goes, didn't Lew Rockwell coin the term "Paleo-Libertarian"? It would fit him.

Quote from: MrBogosity on July 23, 2011, 07:34:53 PMProblem: how can socialism EVER be voluntary?

Something blackacidlizzard doesn't seem to understand...
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537